Chilean Elections. Municipal and Regional elections, October 27th, 2024. (Primaries June 9th) (user search)
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Question: Which list would you vote for?
#1
Unidad para Chile (AD-PS-PL, left-wing)
 
#2
Todo por Chile (PPD-DC-PR, centre-left)
 
#3
Partido de la Gente (populism)
 
#4
Chile Seguro (Chile Vamos, right-wing)
 
#5
Partido Republicano (Far right)
 
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Partisan results

Total Voters: 25

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AustralianSwingVoter
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Junior Chimp
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« on: May 08, 2023, 07:43:25 AM »

And UpCh got the Tarapacá seat, there won't be more changes. REP 22, UpCh 17, ChS 11 and one Indigenous representative.

No 2/3 majority then.

The threshold to approve articles is 3/5ths this time, so the right doesn't really need to reach 2/3rds. The left is still without effective veto power under those numbers.
Let me get this straight:

The Left wanted to change the constitution.

The voters didn't.

The Left insisted.

The voters voted No.

The Left still insisted.

The voters voted for the Right to get rid of the Left.

The Right now gets to write the new constitution, against the Left which insisted on changing it against the will of the people.

Lesson, never anger the population by trying to impose things they don't want.

Slightly skipping over the part where Chileans voted 78% in favour of amending the constitution, then voted overwhelmingly for left-wing parties to draft that new constitution.
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AustralianSwingVoter
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,078
Australia


« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2023, 10:45:04 AM »

What’s the point of a third vote to simply reaffirm what’s already implicit through both the first two votes?Huh That vote is what it creates this never-ending loop where if voters refuse the constitution the person they picked chose, at least one referendum decision will eventually have to be disrespected.

I suppose the excess of democracy is to make sure whatever is written is the most consensual as possible? In that case just come up with a bland generic small text that all sides can be ok with and get this over with.

Surely the definitive lesson from your own Centrão is how little you can trust an elected legislature to do what they promised for the voters. You don't even need to imagine a Centrão dominated constitutional assembly, you've already had one in '88. An excess of democracy is to be expected given past experiences of the opposite.
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