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Starry Eyed Jagaloon
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« on: April 10, 2022, 02:45:23 PM »

By good FP I mean he’s  the only president not to hate on America when we do stuff but then expect us to be a sugar daddy for them .
You're right. They should've paid their debt and sent French soldiers to die in Iraq. How dare they criticize us for starting a war based on lies?

Holy F nationalism is dumb


France and Germany literally tried to form an alliance with Russia in 2003 so it just wasn’t about sending troops . They were explicitly anti American at that point and treated us as we were the villains  guys in Iraq rather than Iraq just being a mistaken intervention

How is this even offensive. Not everyone has to be as jingoistic and apologetic as you.

We provide for their defense so at the very least they should refrain from hating us
France has the strongest army in Europe.

Isnt that the UK

No. France is the strongest military power in Europe and probably the most intervention-happy. If you want to whine about anyone, whine about Germany. Except apparently not anymore...
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Starry Eyed Jagaloon
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« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2022, 03:48:57 PM »

I always monitor the commune of Y (Somme) in these elections...

26 Le Pen, 12 Melenchon, 6 Zemmour, 4 Macron 4 Lassalle, 2 Pecresse, 1 Arthaud, 1 NDA

What sort of commune would vote for Le Pen?

Well, rural Picardie is a decent start.
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Starry Eyed Jagaloon
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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2022, 04:41:17 PM »
« Edited: April 10, 2022, 05:10:30 PM by Entitled, Abstract, and Arrogant »

Relative to Le Pen, yes - but Paris will probably actually be fairly mediocre for Mélenchon relative to other cities. It's Macron heartland par excellence.

So far, he doing very well in Paris. He's leading Seine-Saint-Denis by a 49-20% margin over Macron, is at 26% in Val-de-Marne and 27% in Hauts-de-Seine. Nothing yet from the center of Paris city, however.

I would imagine Paris would most closely match Hauts-de-Seine with a somewhat higher Jadot baseline, excepting the 19th and 20th arrondissements. Melenchon could certainly get S-S-D numbers out of the northern and eastern fringe of the city, but that's not a very big share of the electorate.

Edit: oops. ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯
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Starry Eyed Jagaloon
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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2022, 02:34:24 PM »

Can Someone explain to me, Zemmmour doing very strongly in Paris XVI, Nevily Sur Seine etc (upwards of 16%!!!!)? The closest resemblance to these electorates seems like Wentworth or North Sydney. These electorates, no matter how anti-labor they are, would never vote for a far-right candidate. Similarly Kensington and Chelsea had very low UKIP vote shares.

Well, you saw Brexit do a bit better in Knightsbridge and South Ken than...like...Highgate. Trump did mildly better in Midtown than the Upper West Side. Etc. It's definitely not uncommon for the far right to do mildly less poorly with the obscenely rich when contrasted with the bobo set. Age can also come into play here.
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