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Flying Dog
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« on: January 23, 2006, 06:14:05 PM »

Ever since Japanese American Internment, I suppose Asian Americans want to do all they can to stay on the good side of the Democrats Tongue

I thought it would be the other way around.
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« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2006, 04:07:40 PM »

Ever since Japanese American Internment, I suppose Asian Americans want to do all they can to stay on the good side of the Democrats Tongue

I thought it would be the other way around.

I'm not thinking so much that they're resentful towards Democrats, more like they're worried that if they do anything to anger the Democrats, that something simmilar might happen again.

That's just a guess though.

Are not Democrats supposed to be the pro-human rights party nowaday. I would be more worried about republicans doing something like that. Things have flip-flopped since the 1940's
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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2006, 09:44:43 PM »


Are not Democrats supposed to be the pro-human rights party nowaday. I would be more worried about republicans doing something like that. Things
have flip-flopped since the 1940's

Why would Republicans intern Asian-Americans?

Things haven't flip flopped that much since the 1940's, just that Democrats are now in the minority.

Look: if Republicans interned Asian-Americans, what would be the precedent, the context, for that? It would be totally out of nowhere. Are they gonna fight a War on Terrorism as well as a War on Asians? Hell no, they've got their hands tied.

However, Democrats would have much more reason, and justification, to intern Asian Americans.

First of all, they did it before, so there's a precedent for it.

Secondly, when they did it the first time, we won WWII. Coincidence? Who knows?

Thirdly, the Democrats have opposed Republican actions of interning all sorts of people in all sorts of illegal/immoral ways, and what has the result been? The Democrats have made no head-way. Besides the case of Jose Padilla, who FINALLY is getting a trial, no one else Republicans have detained has been set free by Democrats' efforts. The CIA prisons in Eastern Europe still exist, Gitmo is still up and running, along with TONS of other prison camps around the world. So Democrats have done all they can to oppose detainment of (mostly) muslims, and Republicans haven't budged. Therefore, who would say anything if the Democrats decided to intern Asian Americans? Republicans would be huge hypocrites if they said anything, and Democrats are probably just mad that they aren't powerful enough now to detain anyone for no reason anymore.

Why would Republicans intern Asian-Americans?

They would have no reason too in today's sense. But lets say Japan recreates its once vast military. The militarists take control of japan again and are hostile towards america. They then launch a massive attack on our  bases and interests because of intelligence givin from sources inside america telling them when and where would be the best time to attack. Some crazy radical top notch general in the pentagon says that the japanese got there information from japanese americans. Now, no internment would happen but a republican administration would have a 1% chance likelyhood  of interning the japanese while the democrats would have a 0.5% likelyhood of interning them. Republicans would just have a slighter higher likelyhood of doing it because unlike the 1940's the republicans are now the hawkish and pro-war party while the dems are the anti-war, peace party. Ofcouse, this scenario is purely hypothetical.

Secondly, when they did it the first time, we won WWII. Coincidence? Who knows?

Actually, most of japans sources where from caucasions, not from japanese americans.
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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2006, 03:25:29 PM »

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There would be absolutely no reason or justification for Republicans to intern Asian Americans. I never said there was/would be.

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I disagree with your assessment of the odds.

Republicans have already used up their internment quota. All the secret prisons and prison camps throughout the world are filled up with those the Republicans wanted to intern. They're done for now; they used up all there allowance.

However, it's a well known fact that every DNC building throughout the nation is easily convertible into a prison camp, incase Democrats should ever come to power and quickly need to intern a large amount of people.
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Tell me if I understand what you're saying correctly.

You believe that internment worked, because the Japanese government was forced to get all it's info from caucasians, since all the Japanese Americans were interned, and thus unable to act as spies for the Japanese government?

It seems that you're actually making the case for internment...


Ok, lets stop on the republicans interning asian americans. It is never going to happen. Internment of a entire racial group is absurd nowaday's in america. I am tired arguing with you on this pointless issue.

On the case of where the japanese got there info from. President Roosevelt did not order the internment until after WW2, and before the pearl harbor attacks when the japanese WERE NOT interned, the Japan Government got the vast majority of there sources from CAUCASIANS. In other terms:

BEFORE INTERNMENT: JAPAN GOT INFO FROM CAUCASIANS
AFTER INTERNMENT: JAPAN GOT INFO FROM CAUCASIANS

Infact, japanese americans were and still are one of the most patriotic groups of americans.
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« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2006, 03:20:44 PM »

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There would be absolutely no reason or justification for Republicans to intern Asian Americans. I never said there was/would be.

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Exactly.
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I disagree with your assessment of the odds.

Republicans have already used up their internment quota. All the secret prisons and prison camps throughout the world are filled up with those the Republicans wanted to intern. They're done for now; they used up all there allowance.

However, it's a well known fact that every DNC building throughout the nation is easily convertible into a prison camp, incase Democrats should ever come to power and quickly need to intern a large amount of people.
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Tell me if I understand what you're saying correctly.

You believe that internment worked, because the Japanese government was forced to get all it's info from caucasians, since all the Japanese Americans were interned, and thus unable to act as spies for the Japanese government?

It seems that you're actually making the case for internment...


Ok, lets stop on the republicans interning asian americans. It is never going to happen. Internment of a entire racial group is absurd nowaday's in america. I am tired arguing with you on this pointless issue.

On the case of where the japanese got there info from. President Roosevelt did not order the internment until after WW2, and before the pearl harbor attacks when the japanese WERE NOT interned, the Japan Government got the vast majority of there sources from CAUCASIANS. In other terms:

BEFORE INTERNMENT: JAPAN GOT INFO FROM CAUCASIANS
AFTER INTERNMENT: JAPAN GOT INFO FROM CAUCASIANS

Infact, japanese americans were and still are one of the most patriotic groups of americans.
I never said Republicans would intern Asian Americans, we're in agreement there.

The executive order authorizing internment was actually issued in 1942, and was implemented in that same year.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_American_Internment#History

Before Internment: Japanese Americans may not have given info to the Japanese Government, but that's because they were scared of being interned.

After Internment: Japanese Americans couldn't give info to the Japanese Government if they wanted.

Im sorry, I meant to say after WW2 started, my mistake.

How are you so sure that the japanese would have givin the information to the japanese government if they had the chance.
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« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2006, 10:38:08 PM »

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There would be absolutely no reason or justification for Republicans to intern Asian Americans. I never said there was/would be.

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Exactly.
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I disagree with your assessment of the odds.

Republicans have already used up their internment quota. All the secret prisons and prison camps throughout the world are filled up with those the Republicans wanted to intern. They're done for now; they used up all there allowance.

However, it's a well known fact that every DNC building throughout the nation is easily convertible into a prison camp, incase Democrats should ever come to power and quickly need to intern a large amount of people.
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Tell me if I understand what you're saying correctly.

You believe that internment worked, because the Japanese government was forced to get all it's info from caucasians, since all the Japanese Americans were interned, and thus unable to act as spies for the Japanese government?

It seems that you're actually making the case for internment...


Ok, lets stop on the republicans interning asian americans. It is never going to happen. Internment of a entire racial group is absurd nowaday's in america. I am tired arguing with you on this pointless issue.

On the case of where the japanese got there info from. President Roosevelt did not order the internment until after WW2, and before the pearl harbor attacks when the japanese WERE NOT interned, the Japan Government got the vast majority of there sources from CAUCASIANS. In other terms:

BEFORE INTERNMENT: JAPAN GOT INFO FROM CAUCASIANS
AFTER INTERNMENT: JAPAN GOT INFO FROM CAUCASIANS

Infact, japanese americans were and still are one of the most patriotic groups of americans.
I never said Republicans would intern Asian Americans, we're in agreement there.

The executive order authorizing internment was actually issued in 1942, and was implemented in that same year.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_American_Internment#History

Before Internment: Japanese Americans may not have given info to the Japanese Government, but that's because they were scared of being interned.

After Internment: Japanese Americans couldn't give info to the Japanese Government if they wanted.

Im sorry, I meant to say after WW2 started, my mistake.

How are you so sure that the japanese would have givin the information to the japanese government if they had the chance.

We may never know if the Japanese Americans would have given information to the Japanese government.

However, I do know this:

1.) We interned Japanese Americans.

2.) The Japanese government (according to you) got it's info from caucasians, not Japanese Americans.

Let me ask a question of you: How do we know that Hitler wouldn't have stopped at Poland if Britain and France hadn't declared war on it?


I agree with you on your first two points.

To answer your question: We might never know. Hitler wanted war anyway he could get it.
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Flying Dog
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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2006, 03:14:09 PM »

Will Asian-Americans keep trending Democratic?
No, we'll start to swing Republican as we grow wealthier. 
That's just want the Democrats want you to think.

One of the nice things about interning people is that you get to confiscate all their property in the process.

Let Asian Americans get wealthier, and think they can get away from the Democratic Party, and then BAM, the Democrats will imprison all the Asians, confiscate their property, and have a great new way of paying off all national debt.

Your joking right.Huh??
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Flying Dog
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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2006, 03:56:54 PM »

Will Asian-Americans keep trending Democratic?
No, we'll start to swing Republican as we grow wealthier. 
That's just want the Democrats want you to think.

One of the nice things about interning people is that you get to confiscate all their property in the process.

Let Asian Americans get wealthier, and think they can get away from the Democratic Party, and then BAM, the Democrats will imprison all the Asians, confiscate their property, and have a great new way of paying off all national debt.

Your joking right.Huh??
Do the Democrats have a better way to pay down the national debt?


The chance of a democrat imprisoning all asians are: 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%
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Flying Dog
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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2006, 05:34:10 PM »

Will Asian-Americans keep trending Democratic?
No, we'll start to swing Republican as we grow wealthier. 
That's just want the Democrats want you to think.

One of the nice things about interning people is that you get to confiscate all their property in the process.

Let Asian Americans get wealthier, and think they can get away from the Democratic Party, and then BAM, the Democrats will imprison all the Asians, confiscate their property, and have a great new way of paying off all national debt.

Your joking right.Huh??
Do the Democrats have a better way to pay down the national debt?


The chance of a democrat imprisoning all asians are: 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%
After the Bush administration is done, with the national debt so high, you'd be quite surprised what the Democrats will be willing to do to look "Fiscally Responsible."

Are you suggesting that the dems will take back the white house in 08?
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Flying Dog
Jtfdem
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« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2006, 03:10:52 PM »

The Bottom Line: IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.
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Flying Dog
Jtfdem
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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2006, 03:23:34 PM »

He's joking, but he's thought his point out fairly well. The only flaw is that Asians voted Republican as late as 1996...

Lets ask him then:

Jacobtm, are you joking?
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Flying Dog
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« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2008, 06:38:27 PM »


I hate you.
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