Northeast Assembly Thread

[Dr. Cynic]

Specifically, what is meant in fair and equal treatment? Does this merely express that a person cannot be hired or fired on the basis of their weight? Or will it require special accommodations be made for people of unusual girth?

I'm not quite sure I'm comfortable associating obesity with disability, though I do agree with some basic precepts of the bill. (Section 4, for example.)

I'd rather not start a heated battle about "lifestyle choices" here, but as someone who's experienced life as a size 44 waist and as a size 30 waist, I lean towards disapproving the bill.

It is meant that as long as their weight does not interfere with their work, then they cannot be fired from their job on that basis. It also means that a person cannot be discriminated in an interview on that basis (whether they hire them or not is up to them) For some, obesity can be disabiling. For me, it obviously isn't. Section 4 comes from a personal experince. I was charged two seats and given only one. Why should anyone have to pay two seats without getting them?

If you wish to propose amendments, I would consider friendly ones to clean up the language. It won't really cost the Northeast much in terms of budget, either.

[Dr. Cynic]

I approve. Aye

Welcome to the Assembly!

[Dr. Cynic]

All section three says is that a company cannot fire an obese individual if it is not affecting job performance and they cannot discriminate on a qualified applicant simply because they don't like their weight.

Section five is basically saying that Northeastern establishments (Such as clothing stores or restaurants or what have you) have no legal right to exclude obese customers soley on that basis. They can't refuse to sell merchandise or whatever to obese customers.

[Dr. Cynic]

It is entirely reasonable for someone who pays for two seats to get two seats. I actually question whether what happened to you is legal under current law to begin with.

In any case, I just want to make sure that there is an established line between what is inappropriate discrimination (i.e., what happened on the airline flight; firing an employee based on weight alone) and what is appropriate (i.e., obese people can face higher health insurance costs).

Well, I don't even have health insurance, so I can't tell you whether or not my costs for them would be higher.

I wouldn't say they couldn't be charged higher coverage, but they should still be given coverage should they be willing to pay.

[Dr. Cynic]

being happy actualy does affect your health.
see check this out. and listen carefullly.

Happiness does not unclog your plaque-hardened arteries or cure labored breathing.

I fully understand what you are saying. The problem is that what you are saying is ridiculous.

Actually, I don't have high cholesterol. I do have high blood pressure, but it's a genetic trait in my family.

As for labored breathing, since I can't drive, I walk pretty much everywhere. I may not be the fastest guy in the world, but I can walk a pretty good distance without breathing heavy. Not everyone is the same, but I've seen plenty of heavy people get around just fine without labored breathing.

[Dr. Cynic]

Aye

[Dr. Cynic]

My deciding vote shall be against this Bill.

Obesity is a serious health issue and more should be done to encourage Northeast citizens to make healthy lifestyle choices, rather than merely attempt to make people more comfortable in making unhealthy ones.

I have a further concern that were this Bill to be passed, a gym that sets two different workout programmes - one aimed at muscle tone for a healthy person and another aimed at weightloss for an obese person - could then be charged under this act for discriminating against the obese person due to the workout programme being different.

That wasn't the intent at all. I will reintroduce the bill in an amended form in the next term if I'm elected.

[Dr. Cynic]

Aye

[Dr. Cynic]

I would like to ask about the surplus. Are there any programs with which they could be added to?

[Dr. Cynic]

Aye

[Dr. Cynic]

Sounds fine, Mr. Speaker.

[Dr. Cynic]

Mr. Speaker, fellow Representatives, forgive me for my recent asbsence, but I had no power until late last night and was staying in a motel with no wifi.

As for the vote...

I vote Aye

[Dr. Cynic]

I have a few questions and concerns... First of all, does the waist size of the individual matter as long as they can produce a valid gym membership card?

Second, I don't even believe that it actually does anything to curtail the primary problem as any individual can maintain a gym membership and even then, the airlines could just take the five percent out of the cost of the two seat charge for a heavy individual who may even be going to the gym to work on their issues and still cram them into one seat.

So, again, how does this actually solve the problem?

[Dr. Cynic]

I honestly am not really concerned with how the bill is typed up. There's no rule in the Assembly that says it has to be perfectly written and the fact that we have a few members who are not natural english speakers to begin with, it shouldn't get in the way of getting things done, in my opinion.

Look, if it can help address issues both related to health and equality then I think it's worth working on. At the moment though, it's just a bill that offers a solution to neither of the problems that should be addressed.

[Dr. Cynic]

The bill is stupid both in content and in form. Having a gym membership card proves nothing, and what does that have to do with taking an "aiprot flight"?

And its sponsor is from California, not a foreign country.

The point I'm making is I really don't give two crocks whether or not anything is spelled correctly.

Also, I agree... But it's something we can start working towards. Both with obesity figures and the rights of those who still have an issue.

My primary desire is ticket price per seat. Period. One seat, one price.

[Dr. Cynic]

My issue is that if I'm being charged two seats, I want the two seats. If I'm given one seat, then I only want to pay for one seat. I think if it was the government rather than the corporate world that levied such a price, conservatives would be outraged.

I don't support this particular bill as I don't believe it solves the dual issues. I have a gym membership for one full year, but I hardly go... So, I don't see what it does...

If I'm re-elected in the next session, I'll have a modified proposal to deal with the twin issues.

[Dr. Cynic]

I'd like to propose the additional amendment of:

"Any airline who forces an obese customer to purchase two tickets, MUST provide the two seats or the cost shall be reduced to one."

[Dr. Cynic]

Aye

[Dr. Cynic]

A regional Assembly is entitled to decide discounts on products
I'm for regional rights, but this...

And of course, flying companies won't up their prices in the North East when seeing this law !?

Well, Mideasterners won't fly any more to the North East...
Unless this law will apply to the entire Universe !

I'm sorry to intervene like this in your thread but it's so laughable...

Would you like paying the price of two seats for one? No. So, with all due respect, STFU

[Dr. Cynic]

I support the Democratic elections of the CJO.

Aye on the amendment.

[Dr. Cynic]

Are you done using the floor of the Assembly for your campaigning?

Are you done being an obnoxious jerk?

[Dr. Cynic]

I have a few questions...

Why is a bicameral region necessary? What would it add to the Northeast? What does it add to Atlasia as a whole?

[Dr. Cynic]

Nay

[Dr. Cynic]

As a former member of the Assembly and current NE resident, I'll be your CJO if you just want someone to ratify the results or something... Watching the NE Assembly just slip away has been painful.

[Dr. Cynic]

As a former member of the Assembly and current NE resident, I'll be your CJO if you just want someone to ratify the results or something... Watching the NE Assembly just slip away has been painful.

Go ahead. Thanks.

I would, but wouldn't that require Mr. Morderate's removal? I'll do it, certainly...