How can Dems win rural voters?

[The Undefeatable Debbie Stabenow]

Very easily


- Relax on the gun stuff. Run Democrats who use the words "I will protect your 2nd Amendment rights in any efforts of reform and together we will pass legislation that EVERYONE can agree on"


- Stop the constant race-baiting because you're dealing with white people. Race-baiting is not necessary as a strategy to gain great numbers out of the black vote


Do that and you'll have immediate success

This is exactly what nearly every major Democratic politician already says. Unfortunately, that does not quell the right's fearmongering about gun-snatching.

[The Undefeatable Debbie Stabenow]

They can't. They are a rich suburban white party who looks down on rural voters and working class voters. Thanks Obama!

Is that why Biden won voters with incomes of <$50,000 by 11% and won voters with incomes between $50,000 and $100,000 by 15%?

This is everyone's obligatory reminder that "working class" =/= "white working class."

[The Undefeatable Debbie Stabenow]

Very easily


- Relax on the gun stuff. Run Democrats who use the words "I will protect your 2nd Amendment rights in any efforts of reform and together we will pass legislation that EVERYONE can agree on"


- Stop the constant race-baiting because you're dealing with white people. Race-baiting is not necessary as a strategy to gain great numbers out of the black vote


Do that and you'll have immediate success

This is exactly what nearly every major Democratic politician already says. Unfortunately, that does not quell the right's fearmongering about gun-snatching.

“Hell yes, we’re going to take your AR-15”

Hence why I said "nearly." O'Rourke was roundly excoriated for saying that

[The Undefeatable Debbie Stabenow]

Very easily


- Relax on the gun stuff. Run Democrats who use the words "I will protect your 2nd Amendment rights in any efforts of reform and together we will pass legislation that EVERYONE can agree on"


- Stop the constant race-baiting because you're dealing with white people. Race-baiting is not necessary as a strategy to gain great numbers out of the black vote


Do that and you'll have immediate success

This is exactly what nearly every major Democratic politician already says. Unfortunately, that does not quell the right's fearmongering about gun-snatching.

Well can you blame them? In the 2018 Democratic Primary for governor in FL, Phillip Levine (former mayor of Miami Beach) came out with the whole "I will ban ALL assault weapons!" as part of his platform. Until that aspect of the Democratic party is eliminated they will rightfully struggle with rural voters. I won't get into my personal positions on the matter but I know the rural vote would swing by like 30% Democrat just based on that alone.



Rural folks are all about businesses paying more taxes, going to your gay friend's wedding and healthcare. But you can't run the Levine's of the world and expect them to support you.

1. An assault weapons ban is not a fringe policy; in fact, it is an extremely popular one. Obviously it is impossible to draft gun reform that is agreed upon by "EVERYONE," as you put it, but >70% of Americans support an assault weapons ban, including a majority of Republicans. Keep in mind that an assault weapons ban was already in effect for 10 full years (1994-2004); this is not a new, radical concept.

2. As far as rural folks being "all about healthcare," is that why rural Missourians, rural Nebraskans, and rural Oklahomans rejected expanding Medicaid in referenda in the last few years? Those measures only narrowly passed because of urban and suburban voters, facing overwhelming opposition from rural voters. It's simply not true that WWC voters are all economic leftists who solely vote GOP because of the gun issue. Are these voters generally closer to being economic leftists than social leftists? Yes, but they still largely vote in accordance with the GOP on economic matters.

[The Undefeatable Debbie Stabenow]

Very easily


- Relax on the gun stuff. Run Democrats who use the words "I will protect your 2nd Amendment rights in any efforts of reform and together we will pass legislation that EVERYONE can agree on"


- Stop the constant race-baiting because you're dealing with white people. Race-baiting is not necessary as a strategy to gain great numbers out of the black vote


Do that and you'll have immediate success

This is exactly what nearly every major Democratic politician already says. Unfortunately, that does not quell the right's fearmongering about gun-snatching.

“Hell yes, we’re going to take your AR-15”

Hence why I said "nearly." O'Rourke was roundly excoriated for saying that

On Reddit, sure, but which of his fellow Democratic presidential candidates criticized the idea of gun confiscation after that statement was made?

I don't have that debate memorized, so I don't remember if anyone took that idea head-on, but I'll assume that you're asking me this question because no one did. It's not surprising to me that no one bothered to punch down at Beto in that debate, considering how much of a nonfactor he was in the primary. Additionally, considering that any of those candidates would've been incredibly lucky to, as president, achieve even the most incremental gun reform, it doesn't make sense for them to spend time making a case against Beto's proposal (which is completely infeasible and has not been a relevant point of discussion in national legislative debate over guns) instead of making their case as to why less drastic measures are still crucial. What I do know is that a vast majority of Democratic politicians do not support mandatory gun buybacks.

[The Undefeatable Debbie Stabenow]

They can't. They are a rich suburban white party who looks down on rural voters and working class voters. Thanks Obama!

Is that why Biden won voters with incomes of <$50,000 by 11% and won voters with incomes between $50,000 and $100,000 by 15%?

This is everyone's obligatory reminder that "working class" =/= "white working class."

Based on county results Biden lost Whites with low income by around 30-35 points.

You must be adding minorities to the sub 50k to make the case that poor people voted Biden.

But in these midterms looking at county results again even if you add minorities this time it's about even.

You're literally making my exact point. Working class does not mean "whites with low income." Of course I'm including low-income minorities; they're as much a part of the working class as whites with low income are.