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« Reply #150 on: February 05, 2018, 07:22:57 PM »

In Fredeburg, however, where the Greens received a majority, the AfD ironically didn't get one single of the 27 votes. However, the PARTEI and the BGE (basic income party) received votes; hence it's a freedom municipality. Tongue

Grüne
CDU
SPD
Die Partei
FDP
BGE
51,9 %
22,2 %
11,1 %
7,4 %
3,7 %
3,7 %
14 Stimmen
6 Stimmen
3 Stimmen
2 Stimmen
1 Stimme
1 Stimme
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« Reply #151 on: February 05, 2018, 07:37:21 PM »

And there's a third village in Schleswig-Holstein with an extraordinary result: Dreggers.
Most of its 24 voters gave their vote to the AfD:

AfD
FDP
CDU
SPD
Grüne
Linke
25 %
20,8 %
16,7 %
16,7 %
12,5 %
8,3 %
6 Stimmen
5 Stimmen
4 Stimmen
4 Stimmen
3 Stimmen
2 Stimmen
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« Reply #152 on: February 06, 2018, 05:02:22 PM »

Okay. #timesup
If you want to join the SPD in order to thwart their grand coalition plans, you have tough luck in doing so, cause today's deadline has ended. Hence you have to place your trust in the 24,339 year-to-date new party members.
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« Reply #153 on: February 06, 2018, 06:31:50 PM »

In Fredeburg, however, where the Greens received a majority, the AfD ironically didn't get one single of the 27 votes. However, the PARTEI and the BGE (basic income party) received votes; hence it's a freedom municipality. Tongue

Grüne
CDU
SPD
Die Partei
FDP
BGE
51,9 %
22,2 %
11,1 %
7,4 %
3,7 %
3,7 %
14 Stimmen
6 Stimmen
3 Stimmen
2 Stimmen
1 Stimme
1 Stimme
Well, I know where I'm moving when Trump reinstitutes the draft.

All those Schleswig-Holstein results remind me of the Maine results. Aren't there several tiny municipalities in your home state where only Jill and Gary received votes?
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« Reply #154 on: February 06, 2018, 08:06:51 PM »

Clickable new map of the 2017 federal election results by town (there are 11.000):

https://interaktiv.morgenpost.de/gemeindekarte-bundestagswahl-2017

I think this is the first map of its kind.

White = no inhabitants.

Also do not forget the +/- zoom sign at the bottom right, to show results for small towns.

I don't like how they don't carve up the cities, leaving areas like Koln, Berlin, Munich, and Dresden as big Black blobs rather than detailed maps. But yes, it is certainly nice to see a map like this.

Here is their ward map of Berlin.
If you click on the legend on the left, you'll see each party's strongholds.
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« Reply #155 on: February 06, 2018, 08:13:44 PM »

Great work, Realpolitik!
I'd love to see an AfD vs. Linke map of Berlin.
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« Reply #156 on: February 07, 2018, 06:17:32 AM »


Peter Altmeier was the Governor of Rhineland-Palatinate from 1947 to 1969.
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« Reply #157 on: February 07, 2018, 06:29:45 AM »

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« Reply #158 on: February 07, 2018, 06:50:45 AM »

Here's a video of Eva Högl that reveals her character very accurately.
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« Reply #159 on: February 07, 2018, 07:09:24 AM »


Why? Huh


Why? Huh


Why? Huh


Why? Huh


Why? Huh


Why? Huh


Why? Huh


Why? Huh

Andrea Nahles will become chairwoman of the SPD.

Why? Huh


Why? Huh
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« Reply #160 on: February 07, 2018, 07:19:20 AM »

By the way, I don't wanna brag, but I already predicted one personnel matter some months ago - even under different circumstances... Roll Eyes

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« Reply #161 on: February 07, 2018, 07:33:10 AM »


It doesn't.

She didn't hear that Schulz was commemorating the terror victims.

She knew that Schulz was about to pretend to show his compassion for the Barcelona victims. Nevertheless she was laughing, which shows her lack of compassion.
Instead of expressing regret for her irreverent attitude towards the victims of the attack, she called her critics detractors and right-wing agitators the next day.
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« Reply #162 on: February 07, 2018, 07:38:25 AM »

Economy: Thomas de Maizière Peter Altmaier
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« Reply #163 on: February 07, 2018, 03:31:40 PM »

Spiegel Online reports the following cabinet list:

Chancellor: Angela Merkel (CDU)
Finance & Vice-Chancellor: Olaf Scholz (SPD)
Foreign Affairs: Martin Schulz (SPD)
Interior: Horst Seehofer (CSU)
Justice: Eva Högl (SPD)
Economy: Peter Altmaier (CDU)
Labour: Heiko Maas (SPD)
Agriculture: Julia Klöckner (CDU)
Defence: Ursula von der Leyen (CDU)
Family: Katarina Barley (SPD)
Health: Annette Widmann-Mauz (CDU)
Transportation: Andreas Scheuer (CSU)
Environment: Barbara Hendricks (SPD)
Education: Hermann Gröhe (CDU)
Foreign Aid: Dorothee Bär (CSU)
Chancellery: Helge Braun (CDU)

http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/grosse-koalition-angela-merkels-neue-minister-fotostrecke-158309.html

Well, tagesschau.de has Eva "terrorist attacks are so funny Cheesy" Högl and Mr. Netzwerkdurchsetzungsgesetz Heiko Maas put the other way round:

http://www.tagesschau.de/multimedia/bilder/groko-kabinett-minister-103.html
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« Reply #164 on: February 08, 2018, 04:46:58 PM »

Meanwhile, Sigmar Gabriel has become furious.
In an interview, he started on at the party leadership about their lack of appreciation of his work.
Moreover, he accused them of breaking their plighted word. What word he meant, he left the interviewers in the dark about.

At the end of the interview he couldn't help taking a pot shot at Saint Martin; Siggi told the interviewer that his little daughter is supposed to have said that: "Daddy, you needn't be sad. You'll now have more time to spend with us. That is better than with the man with the facial hair." 😂
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« Reply #165 on: February 09, 2018, 12:29:56 AM »

Doesn't seem as if the CDU have made many policy concessions at all. They just gave the SPD some good positions.

How is Scholz? Will he be like Dijsselbloem?

Do you mean if he's gonna act mercilessly towards Southern Europe?
At least he is considered fiscally quite conservative for a SPD member; he is one of the most prominent members of the neoliberal Seeheimer Kreis. Plus, he was the last Social Democrat to win a majority of MPs for his party in a statewide election.
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« Reply #166 on: February 09, 2018, 08:16:18 AM »

BILD are reporting that SPD leaders are essentially telling Schulz to get lost and not accept the post of foreign minister.

Schulz is reported to deny himself the foreign ministry.
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« Reply #167 on: February 10, 2018, 09:34:25 AM »

So who will take over? Can Gabriel really return to this office after the rest of the party essentially sacrificed him? What about "Sad Clown" Nahles?



Wow! I didn't know that I could predict the future... Shocked

SPD chairwoman-elect Andrea NahlesPennywise
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« Reply #168 on: February 11, 2018, 03:54:14 PM »

The SPD party base wants a member survey on who should be Schulz's successor as party leader.
Meanwhile, Martin's sister Doris Harst complained about the intra-party behavior towards him; she said he'd been lied to, he'd been deceived, he'd been scapegoated, and called the party leadership a "genuine snake pit".

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« Reply #169 on: February 12, 2018, 05:30:04 PM »

There is something suspicious, but it isn't actually the AfD figure which isn't that much different from what others have shown recently. In fact it isn't a single figure at all, but a pattern:

12th Dec - 22%
19th Dec - 21%
23rd Dec - 20.5%
2nd Jan - 19.5%
8th Jan - 19.5%
15th Jan - 18.5%
23rd Jan - 18.0%
29th Jan - 17.5%
5th Feb - 17%
12th Feb - 16.5%

Those of us who have followed polling for some time will I think understand the problem here, I think.

That reminds me of Anthony Brown's polling numbers...
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« Reply #170 on: February 12, 2018, 05:37:23 PM »

Ok, I took a look at the polling before the federal election again and it turns out that during most of the time INSA had an anti-CDU/CSU house effect (good in 2017), neutral on SPD (as bad as the others), pro-AfD (good in 2017), neutral (mildly favorable until mid August) on FDP (they should have sticked to their bias), pro-Linke (not so good) and anti-Greens (bad).

I remember how harshly INSA was criticized by the left-wing press in 2013 because their prediction of the AfD result was closer to the actual outcome than anyone else's. (5% vs. 4.7%).
The left-wing media accused INSA of bearing part of the blame for the good result of the young AfD.
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« Reply #171 on: February 12, 2018, 09:42:57 PM »


Does anybody dare to make a prediction as to how the first-vote results map would look like in that scenario? Which parties would win the second vote in which states? And would there many or few overhang/leveling seats? I have absolutely no clue. ¯\_ツ_/¯
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« Reply #172 on: February 13, 2018, 12:20:12 AM »

Today, the SPD executive committee is going to select Andrea Nahles as their party's chairwoman-elect.
However, there may be a member vote on who is to succeed Schulz as party leader; Mayor Simone Lange (41) of Flensburg, a city with 87,000 inhabitants bordering Denmark, may challenge her in a primary. 😂

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« Reply #173 on: February 15, 2018, 03:25:10 AM »
« Edited: February 15, 2018, 04:00:03 AM by Ἅιδης »

Lange looks refreshing.

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/spd-warum-simone-lange-gegen-andrea-nahles-antritt-a-1193260.html

Nahles is just more of the same establishment crap. Besides, Lange also has hands-on experience because she's a former Federal Criminal Office employee and knows quite a bit about crime, which could help bring back AfD-voters.

But as I know the politically-correct SPD establishment, she will of course have no chance because exactly of this reason and they will go with Nahles and off the cliff ...

There is another Social Democrat from Schleswig-Holstein that wants to become party chairman:
vocational school teacher Dirk Diedrich from Dithmarschen. Or what his friends call him: Triple D.
He is an advocate of a red-red-green coalition. He calls himself "left-independent".





And there will be a third rival candidate: lawyer Udo Schmitz from Stadland near Bremerhaven.
He is a former associate of former Munich Mayor Hans-Jochen Vogel and former Family Minister Renate Schmidt. He criticizes the "post haggling" within the SPD and says that a fish rots from the head down and that the party leadership has lost their grip on reality. He therefore wants to thwart Nahles's enthronement.


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« Reply #174 on: February 19, 2018, 10:54:35 AM »

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