The Hofoid House of Absurd & Ignorant Posts VII

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Turning on someone for being a sexual abuser is slimy opportunism now?

The point is that people aren't convinced that Franken is a sexual abuser. They wanted the process to play out before drawing their conclusions. Gillibrand, and others, made sure that didn't happen.

And campaigning last year with Bill Clinton only to trash him a year later is the definition of rank opportunism. It's not like she learned something new in the meantime.

It's not as if these are unproven allegations.

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He... isn't great: the general transphobia, that awful hurricane post and having a signature longer than my television are three crimes against him.

But the fact is there are 2 genders Male and Female you’re born one or the other. No if’s no but’s of anything end of discussion.

Medical science is pretty unanimous on this: gender dysphoria is pretty much unanimously seen as being a thing that exists and the body of the evidence is that the only way of managing it is for a person to transition.  This may sound a big smug but I wrote I post that I'm quite proud of about the "mental illness!!!!!" argument that I'm pretty proud of (and a few people told me that it made them consider things a little which means that the time writing it was worthwhile), I'll quote it here

[..]To build on Crabcake's post above (and mine from earlier that you elected to ignore for some reason), the body of evidence proves that the only way to treat gender dysphoria is transitioning.  To cite only a few; there was a 2013 study in Canada that showed that 27% of the group of trans people had had not begun transitioning yet had attempted suicide; which dramatically fell to 1% of those that had completed transitioning. There was another American study of 50 trans women who'd received bottom surgery that found no significant difference in their mental or physical health from control samples of cis women.  And there was also a 2010 meta-analysis of 28 earlier studies which found that the vast majority of trans people showed significant improvement in psychiatric health; to the point where they concluded that the mental health of trans people after transitioning was broadly similar to that on the general population and much lower than pre-transition trans people.

I hate medicalising the whole issue because I don't see it as being a medical issue but one of basic rights, but the facts are very clear that transitioning works, and is the only way that does when dealing with gender dysphoria.  All of the other things that they've historically tried failed; including the joke of trying to treat it with the wrong hormones which actually only worsened the problem significantly.  But I mean, if your feelings matter more than the facts do; feel free to carry on believing that - however, using science when all of the science is against you is the height of ignorance.

A summary is basically this: the body of contemporary medical evidence strongly is in favour of our side of the argument: that is for trans people to transition to the gender that they are (which isn't something that "you wake up as" and it tends to be a lifelong thing; although the person involved doesn't always realise that that is what the issue is) as by doing that it dramatically improves their physical and mental health and well-being and that's the whole point of medical science.  They tried all sorts of other things ranging from conversion therapy to injecting people from the wrong hormones and shockingly they didn't work: the former was useless, the latter made dysphoric feelings worse and worsened outcomes.  Spreading outright falsehoods as "facts" is an incredibly intellectually dishonest thing to do, and you shouldn't do it.  I get that the science of this can seem odd because lots of it is pretty new (although that's only because no one bothered researching it that seriously until pretty recently) but the above posts contains plenty of citations to academic articles about this if you want to have a looksie at them.

There's also another side of things in relation to the subject of misgendering people; and that's basic respect for other people.  Perhaps I'm old fashioned or something but I believe that even if you disagree fundamentally with someone you lose nothing by being a decent person towards them. Internationally misgendering a trans person who posts on this forum; as both Greedo and Bagel23 have done, is frightfully rude no matter how you think about this issue.  I've not read the terms of service but I'm sure that there'll be something in it about treating other users with respect and therefore that might apply in this.  Besides, this world would be a lot better if we treated each other a lot nicer anyway!  Decency doesn't cost anything, and makes people a lot more likely to listen to you while intentionally calling a woman a man is going to make them not like you a whole lot, as well as those of us who think that doing that sort of thing is just nasty.

Okay so if a there is a transgender woman if this person is actually a woman then why do we say transgender woman.

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Why did they want that deal with Iran so bad? It was such a one sided crappy deal.

Because without that deal, Iran would have carried on developing nuclear weapons and there would have been a very expensive war.

Where was it ever confirmed that Iran was developing nuclear weapons?

lmao

You realize there is a difference between a nuclear program and nuclear weapons, right?

.... Yes?

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Turning on someone for being a sexual abuser is slimy opportunism now?

The point is that people aren't convinced that Franken is a sexual abuser. They wanted the process to play out before drawing their conclusions. Gillibrand, and others, made sure that didn't happen.

And campaigning last year with Bill Clinton only to trash him a year later is the definition of rank opportunism. It's not like she learned something new in the meantime.

There was literal proof. Are you just mad that she called out Clinton for being a rapist.

This is why populists are inherently not conservatives.

Populism is objectively not inherently leftist. It's a rhetorical style, and one quite fit for reactionary fits. See trump.

Populism doesn't have a political bent, per se. It's a philosophy built around primal rage, around taking revenge against "the oppressors". Therefore, it's inherently incompatible with conservatism, which is a philosophy based around the free market, self-sufficiency, and individual rights. A philosophy that urges the government to take revenge for what's "keeping us down" is anathema to constitutional conservatism.

Populism isn't inherently leftist, no, but it's inherently anti-conservatives, and the fact that so many Republicans got suckered in by a coarse populist remains a massive blot on the party.

This is sort've what I've been trying to say. Populism, whether of the right-wing or left-wing variety, is inherently bad because it attempts to pit people against one another and blame "the other" for all our problems.

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Establishing a 5-member elected commission with districts where gun permit applications are reviewed and can be accepted or rejected with infinite discretion.

In a state as Democratic as Maryland, this would equate to voters elect a majority rejection-in-all-cases group to the commission which means that guns would be banned completely in a way that is not in violation of the 2nd amendment.

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Porn is gross. The only acceptable way to view nude people is clips of movies and TV shows with good production values and good actors/actresses

Absolutely. Porn is disgusting and should be banned.

"I support free speech, but only when I agree with it"

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Porn is gross. The only acceptable way to view nude people is clips of movies and TV shows with good production values and good actors/actresses

Absolutely. Porn is disgusting and should be banned.

"I support free speech, but only when I agree with it"

I'm surprised by how many progressives apparently support banning things they find offensive.

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Porn is gross. The only acceptable way to view nude people is clips of movies and TV shows with good production values and good actors/actresses

Absolutely. Porn is disgusting and should be banned.

"I support free speech, but only when I agree with it"

I'm surprised by how many progressives apparently support banning things they find offensive.

Obviously I'm biased, but I'm not giving up my porn stash until someone pries it from my cold, dead hands. I would be willing to die in a war if the war was between people who want to keep pornography and people who want to ban it, and I'm sure you can guess which side I'd be on.

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Darkest Green: I live here/have lived here
regular green: would consider living here
Darkest red: would rather have my testicles bitten off by a rabid weasel than live here
regular red: just wouldn't want to live here.

I fail to see how a little bit of humor is absurd and ignorant.

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Most white people are on welfare. But a large number of African-Americans and Latinos are on it as well. Don't deny it. People like Jesse Jackson won't be so upset with the 1996 welfare reform bill if it wasn't so.

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No. My life motto is better:

If it bleeds, we can f**k it.

Now that I think about it, that's a good motto for a politician.

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Maybe he was being metaphorical, you know, like big banks f**king profusely bleeding American middle class?

I was somewhat being metaphorical, because this would also be a perfect motto for a politician.

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Kasich. He promotes himself as a reasonable Republican then promotes a far right wing abortion bill. He's just as bad as all the other slimy Republicans.

Just because someone isn't moderate about abortion doesn't mean that they are not overall a moderate. I'm moderate and I am against abortion.

He's not a moderate. In fact, Moderate Republicans have gone extinct.

Yeah, Susan Collins and Charlie Baker are fake news!

According to ProgressiveCanadian, anyone to the right of Lenin is a conservative, so...

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Religion is a positive influence on society

I know a lot of people do actually have a sense of morality that is informed by religion, so in that case it could have some positive impact.

No religious person has ever done a good deed that an atheist couldn't also have done. However, a lot of religious people do horrible things that an atheist obviously would not do. Religion is a cancer on society in nearly all cases.

Take out the part about religion being a cancer on society and my comment is objectively true. you never see atheists murdering LGBT people or committing suicide attacks. sure faith might lead some people to do decent things, but that doesn't balance out all the atrocious things that religion has lead people to do, especially when an atheist like me could do any good deed a Christian could do without the scientifically inaccurate and borderline stone age beliefs.

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If there's been a shift in any direction over the last couple of years, it's been in favor of less gun control since now radical leftists kids want minorities to have more guns and see gun control as racist.

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Wasn't George Wallace pretty much a segregationist (and socially conservative) Bernie Sanders?

This isn't as absurd as it seems on the surface. Wallace was fairly progressive on economic issues.

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This entire thread...I'm honestly surprised TexArkana isn't the one who posted it, honestly.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=285996.0

Let me make something absolutely clear; I am not in any way sexually aroused by that bizarre fetish. I'm a simple man, give me a phat booty and a beer and I'm happy.

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Also, just exactly how many nukes do both sides have?

Hopefully it's not just a trade war.

Wow dude, you really are trying to get the title of Most Deplorable Poster on Atlas.

It's an act. Santander is a contrarian troll, but a damn good one.

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Is Kennedy more liberal then Polis? If so - nothing unusual: conventions are dominated by "activists", and tend to favor the most radical candidates: left in Democratic case, right - in Republican.

I don't see how that's absurd or ignorant, he's right.

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Is Kennedy more liberal then Polis? If so - nothing unusual: conventions are dominated by "activists", and tend to favor the most radical candidates: left in Democratic case, right - in Republican.

I don't see how that's absurd or ignorant, he's right.

The only thing absurd or ignorant in it is the grammar.

Forgive English, he is Russia.

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Why doesn't JB or Julianna speak Spanish to their people?

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She’s clearly been involved in far left politics since before the shooting judging by her hair style.

Hwat.

Unless someone had cancer or otherwise exposed to radiation (which she doesn’t) a chick with a wiffle is 999 Times out of 1000 on the left fringe of the spectrum and is probably a hard core feminist skinhead/SJW

Huh?

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I think she’s attractive, however, that probably has to do with the fact that I have a fetish for women with short hair (I also think Katy Perry’s hot).

Most of this quotepile

Except for the last one, which I begrudgingly agree with.

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2016 if we lived in a functioning Democracy:

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2016 if we lived in a functioning Democracy:

Its literally just the entire nation filled with >40% Democratic coloring. That is, the national popular vote result.

I thought you were saying if we lived in a functioning democracy, Clinton would have won every state.

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This is why I supported Periello.

I'm 99% sure he was joking.