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PragmaticPopulist
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« on: November 20, 2017, 02:35:53 PM »
« edited: November 20, 2017, 02:54:02 PM by Doug Jones »

All I know is the Trump coalition is going to need to expand, otherwise it is going to have a lot of trouble winning in the future. Non college graduate white people is a pretty bad coalition for the House / President (not as bad for the Senate). Hillary would have only won the popular vote by 1.3% in 2012 if the demographics voted the same way they did in 2016. Literally every state is becoming better for the democrats demographically besides South Carolina (and Washington DC). Idaho and New Hampshire are barely changing, though.

Even the rust belt states are becoming more demographically friendly towards Democrats, and especially the sun belt is rapidly becoming more demographically friendly.

Also you can easily get 12-15% of african americans by just not being assholes to them. Most republicans in 2016 got around that amount of AA's, just Trump underperformed them.
The Trump coalition still included the majority of white college graduates, and their objections to Trump were more related to his personality than his policies, meaning that a Trump republican without scandals like Access Hollywood could outperform him.

Trump also did better with black voters than McCain and Romney. Admittedly, he wasn't against Obama, but his results were perfectly normal for a republican. Black don't vote democrat "because republicans are assholes to them." They vote democrat because they overwhelmingly support democrat big government policies. The black vote didn't flip due to Nixon's southern strategy. It flipped decades earlier due to FDR's New Deal programs. Most blacks support welfare, want more gun control, do not consider hate speech free speech, want to raise taxes on the rich,etc. The main area where the black community and democrats are divided is on social issues that weren't the focus of the 2016 election.
I'll let you decide based on this quotation what you think of him.
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PragmaticPopulist
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« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2017, 03:31:29 PM »

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PragmaticPopulist
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« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2017, 05:33:48 PM »

Getting back to the title of the thread, here's another gem I found from PA Deplorable that is open for interpretation:
The financial crisis killed them. There just aren't that many social conservatives with liberal (in the economic sense) views any more in America. That's the reason why Romney lost handily in 2012, and why so much of the Republican base backed Trump over the more 'traditional' candidates in 2016.
This is correct. Capitalism is great, but some regulations are needed and the common man and woman on both sides of the aisle wants a government that puts their interests before those of billionaires and their multinational corporations. The media has shifted the country to the left socially to the extent that gay marriage, just a decade ago a winning issue for the GOP) is a done deal with very few seriously still trying to reverse it. Reagan's coalition didn't really believe in all the "true conservative" principals of Goldwater anyway and neither do the modern ones. Goldwater voted down the Civil Rights Act as an unconstitutional federal overreach. Guaranteed nobody important in the GOP would stand on principle enough to agree with him there (meaning you yourself are liberal by the standards of the past). The conservative movement has played a losing game for the last 30 years and failed to conserve anything. You already lost the culture war and if you don't do something to slow down demographics the whole country will vote like California.
Important part is bolded.
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PragmaticPopulist
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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2017, 07:35:42 PM »

Pretty much. Does a good job of hiding his misdeeds though.
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