Andrew Cuomo says "America was never that great" Do you agree?

[Bidenworth2020]

What an absolutely idiotic thing to say.

My biggest problem with the far-left (and I guess the people that pander to them) of this country is their opposition to basic patriotism. It's astonishing how they don't realize this leads to their own electoral demise.

With that said, we finally have a President that opposes American exceptionalism too, so I guess there's not that big of a difference anymore.

Agree. I really do not like a lot of things about Trump. His vulgarity bothers me most of the time and also his lack of compassion for those who are not white also bothers me, but the democratic party is lost. I used to be a democrat. I miss the JFK type democrats who fought for progressive values but proudly supported and loved their country..where is that party?

Stop the strawman. At least 80% of Democrats love our country, I included. What we don't support is blind patriotism, acting like everything is great and nothing needs to change. Also, you have been pretty outspoken as a supporter of Trump, yet you miss "JFK Democrats". Give me a break, the dem platform has stayed pretty much the same since the days of Kennedy. Stop telling me I don't love my country because of the political party I ascribe to. That's dumb. Also, how is the republican party not lost?

[Bidenworth2020]

This is enough to cost him the election in November.  It's possible now.

His Presidential campaign will never get off the ground now.  The big donors will not see him as a winner.  And, again, that's assuming he's re-elected.

It was a comment more dumb than Gerald Ford saying, "There is no Soviet domination of Eastern Europe." during the second debate with Carter.

I assume you arent referring to NY-GOV?

[Bidenworth2020]

This is enough to cost him the election in November.  It's possible now.

His Presidential campaign will never get off the ground now.  The big donors will not see him as a winner.  And, again, that's assuming he's re-elected.

It was a comment more dumb than Gerald Ford saying, "There is no Soviet domination of Eastern Europe." during the second debate with Carter.

I assume you arent referring to NY-GOV?

This is the kind of thing that can get blown out of proportion to where Cuomo has a real fight to be re-elected, even in Democratic NY.

oh, well he most definitely isn't losing the Governors Race. He won by 14 in a red wave with a pretty good opponent.

[Bidenworth2020]

He has a point. A lot of even the most belligerent and extreme criticisms of America, with people saying the country doesn't have a right to exist, aren't really all that "wrong". I disagree vehemently with the concept of America not having a right to exist nowadays or Americans not having the right of self-determination, but European settlers settled and murdered Native Americans and built the infrastructure and society of modern day America using violent slavery. The only reason we have a right to be here is because of violence, murder, genocide, and slavery. We have a "right" because we killed and enslaved millions for it.

That fits well into the definition of "not that great".

This is just as simplistic of a take on relations with Native Americans in early America as the White washing that is slightly more prevalent.  We didn't really have a "right" to be here as Europeans, but Native-European relations weren't a one-sided genocide as many of you seem to try to depict the situation.

If your point is that natives tried to do the same thing to Europeans and just and just didn't succeed, it is 1) a much more nuanced reality and 2) why does that give Europeans an excuse? They still did horrible things to the natives, even when they backed down.