Elizabeth Warren 2020 campaign megathread

[Rookie Yinzer]

The Democratic senator released results of a poll of Fox News' viewers that showed that 1/1024 of viewers are bigots which according to Elizabeth Warren is "strong evidence" to back up her claim of Fox News "profiting of racism"  


All jokes aside that was a right choice for her. Her "Native American heritage" and her WOKE policies would be ridiculed and I don't think she could defend that. She anyway doesn't resonate much with non-college educated whites (in contrast to Bernie and of course Biden) while there is a lot of college educated who might love her bashing Trump/Fox News. She can probable steal Buttigieg's voters?

Stop gaslighting. FOX News is inherently anti-black, anti-Muslim, and anti-immigrant. And so are its viewers.

[Rookie Yinzer]

Seriously. F***  Fox News. They never have more than 5-6 million viewers at any given time. Nobody seriously considering Democrats is watching that network. They would have her on and then immediately following Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson would twist everything she said. They are illegitimate. I’m glad she gave them the middle finger and is focusing on turning out Obama 2012 voters that stayed home and people who were eligible to vote for the first time in 2016 and passed.

Yes. Screw Trump voters.

[Rookie Yinzer]

Seriously. F***  Fox News. They never have more than 5-6 million viewers at any given time. Nobody seriously considering Democrats is watching that network. They would have her on and then immediately following Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson would twist everything she said. They are illegitimate. I’m glad she gave them the middle finger and is focusing on turning out Obama 2012 voters that stayed home and people who were eligible to vote for the first time in 2016 and passed.

Yes. Screw Trump voters.

More people watch FOX than MSNBC and CNN, they're doing something right despite their behavior. Fix it.

Yes. Old white people that hate Democrats. I don’t care about them.

[Rookie Yinzer]

A slew of polls this week show Warren gaining support and they're estimating it's coming at the expense of Bernie Sanders.

 I can't speak to this because I've never been a Bernie supporter. Are there any Bernie folks here who have switched to Warren?

 Also for Warren this is the first month of polling results showing her beating Trump head to head in multiple polls.

Warren's my number 2 but I am reconsidering that.

Warren might become your top pick?

[Rookie Yinzer]

No one cares. Just like no one cares about Gillibrand forcing Al Franken out, Klobuchar abusing her staff, Harris sleeping with a married man, Sanders and whatever he does, and Biden's policy atrocities. This doesn't have a hook to sustain months of media coverage like Hillary's emails (which was an active investigation in real time). Nothing to see here.

[Rookie Yinzer]

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1134666451334311938

https://twitter.com/FarrellGabriell/status/1134668963483283456

Whoa.

[Rookie Yinzer]

Warren has shown herself to be the moral leader of the Democratic Party for a solid month now. I can't see myself switching to anybody else. She has a spine of steel.

https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1134894159100170245

[Rookie Yinzer]

Warren has shown herself to be the moral leader of the Democratic Party for a solid month now. I can't see myself switching to anybody else. She has a spine of steel.

https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1134894159100170245

Didn’t you support Beto? Genuinely interested to hear why you switched

Yes. I did always says Warren had the best policies of the bunch and I hope she would shape the platform but I was hesitant to back Warren because I was stuck on stupid issues about viability and electability. As she kept rolling out more and more plans with feasible ways to finance them, call for Trump’s impeachment, and refuse to go on FOX News she fully won me over. Beto is fine, but he just speaks a whole lot without saying anything. That was fine in the Senate race and I’m sure he believes all the things he says but how are you going to do it and quite frankly I want someone ready to battle Mitch McConnell from day one. I don’t think Beto will do that.

[Rookie Yinzer]

https://twitter.com/DataDhrumil/status/1135632227826581505

[Rookie Yinzer]

If Warren replaces Sanders as the dominant candidate of the party left she could gain a lot of support as she is more acceptable to the rest of the party and to the establishment than Bernie. While I'm sceptical still about electability, if she can come from behind and win the primary that's a pretty strong case for her being a good candidate.

That would be disastrous, because while she's the best candidate policy-wise, she's by far the worst in terms of likability and electability. The sole reason is that Trump is utterly shameless and will hammer her on the "Pocahontas" thing with the intensity of "emails".

You have nothing to substantiate this claim other than what you feel. Just LOL at you thinking she will lose because Trump will call her a racist slur over and over again.

[Rookie Yinzer]

THREAD:

https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1136264757059772417

[Rookie Yinzer]

https://twitter.com/ProudResister/status/1139034876575772675

[Rookie Yinzer]

She making a lot smart moves lately. I still don't think I want to roll the dice with her. She still has not found a way to handle her DNA debacle. I still think it be a mistake to nominate her. She is already tainted like Hillary. I'm worried we are making the same mistake.

OMG! Nobody cares about that DNA stuff. Damn.

[Rookie Yinzer]

She making a lot smart moves lately. I still don't think I want to roll the dice with her. She still has not found a way to handle her DNA debacle. I still think it be a mistake to nominate her. She is already tainted like Hillary. I'm worried we are making the same mistake.

OMG! Nobody cares about that DNA stuff. Damn.

Hillary's emails, "health concerns," "basket of deplorables," etc... all nothingburgers that unfortunately hurt her anyway. Anything stupid like the DNA story could be just enough of a headache to really hurt Warren in the general. No matter how many times Warren says "it never helped my career, it was just an honest mistake," people won't forget it.

The “issue” is already uncared for in the media and isolated from her campaign compared to other challengers. The fact of the matter is that as long as she learns from the decision, which it seems like she did, she’ll do fine against Teflon Don.

This. We’ve all moved on. She’s the policy candidate. Nobody in the MSM has referenced that DNA mess for months. Even when the guy on The Breakfast Club tried to embarrass her- it was in the news for like.... a few hours. The fact that people think that is more problematic than Biden’s history is indicative of how biased politics and the media are.

[Rookie Yinzer]

Castro. He is a solid candidate but not ready for top slot. He is a compelling surrogate in the Sun Belt.

[Rookie Yinzer]

She making a lot smart moves lately. I still don't think I want to roll the dice with her. She still has not found a way to handle her DNA debacle. I still think it be a mistake to nominate her. She is already tainted like Hillary. I'm worried we are making the same mistake.

OMG! Nobody cares about that DNA stuff. Damn.

Hillary's emails, "health concerns," "basket of deplorables," etc... all nothingburgers that unfortunately hurt her anyway. Anything stupid like the DNA story could be just enough of a headache to really hurt Warren in the general. No matter how many times Warren says "it never helped my career, it was just an honest mistake," people won't forget it.

The “issue” is already uncared for in the media and isolated from her campaign compared to other challengers. The fact of the matter is that as long as she learns from the decision, which it seems like she did, she’ll do fine against Teflon Don.

This. We’ve all moved on. She’s the policy candidate. Nobody in the MSM has referenced that DNA mess for months. Even when the guy on The Breakfast Club tried to embarrass her- it was in the news for like.... a few hours. The fact that people think that is more problematic than Biden’s history is indicative of how biased politics and the media are.

I dont think Charlamagne tried to embarass her. He actually flat out did and her response was horrible. If you think this won't be an issue with African Americans, when it's addressed during debates or in a general election, you are crazy.

Why would African Americans be particularly concerned with the DNA story? LOL. If there are indigenous people that are hesitant to Warren and want more from her on that, that is completely reasonable but she has done a ton to rectify it, people are moving on, and the fear mongers trying to force Warren out with this non-story need to get over it.

[Rookie Yinzer]

Love this! #SwitchtoWarren
https://twitter.com/BoldProgressive/status/1143081656800161792

[Rookie Yinzer]

Warren/Castro is the best choice for Dems. Both are putting together great progressive policies and having Castro on the ticket will help boost Latino turnout.

Castro has been dropping fire policy proposals. He would be an amazing surrogate in TX, AZ, and for the burgeoning Latino electorate in GA. I hope she picks him!

[Rookie Yinzer]

America needs immigrants. We have entire towns that are disappearing in Main Street and an aging workforce that needs replacement. Immigrants coming from Central America are clearly fleeing a bad scene like the Italians and Irish did before them to seek the opportunity for a better life. This isn't that complicated, make the process easier. There's no reason for children and their parents to be suffering dangerous journeys and even death when they can fly over here in an airplane.

 

It’s pure racism. Half of these people screaming know damn well immigrants don’t impact their lives in a negative way.

[Rookie Yinzer]

Warren/Castro is the best choice for Dems. Both are putting together great progressive policies and having Castro on the ticket will help boost Latino turnout.

Castro has been dropping fire policy proposals. He would be an amazing surrogate in TX, AZ, and for the burgeoning Latino electorate in GA. I hope she picks him!

O’Rourke gives nearly  all the same benefits Castro does, but is actually charismatic and a good campaigner.

I mean, he's white. But charisma is arguably more important than being a certain race.

I take this back after tonight. Beto would not be a good running mate for Warren, and Castro would actually be really good.

[Rookie Yinzer]

Warren’s backing eliminating private insurance was incredibly stupid. Gives GOP an opening, a Medicare option pretty does the same thing without the baggage.

She had a good night, but that statement really highlights how poor her political instincts are.

“Poor political instincts” but has successfully positioned herself to be Biden’s main adversary down the stretch? K. She said what she meant and that goes farther than a rehearsed answer pulled from polling and focus groups. Trump won promising to round up illegals, building a fictional wall, and banning Muslims. Elizabeth Warren will be alright.

[Rookie Yinzer]

Adding to the busing discussion, they were able to find Warren's first law review article from 1975 which addressed this issue...

https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/1147543871804661760?s=20
https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/1147545469918355457?s=20

Wow. And she was a blatant conservative at the time, no?

She described herself as conservative but not politically engaged. Also this was a time when social conservatism and other types of conservatism (e.g., fiscal, judicial) were not so tightly connected.

I mean, you'd think that a staunch fiscal conservative would also oppose busing even then.

Fair point. I'll modify that to say that social conservatism (e.g. attitudes about race) and other strains of conservatism were probably not as cross-pressured as they are today. I.e., one could identify as a conservative but still prioritize racial sympathy over other positions on, e.g., government intervention? I'm spitballing here.

editing to add: this is part of why I think the whole "Warren was a Republican until the 90s" attack to be incredibly stupid. There are a couple of other reasons but this is an obvious one.

I mean, she was VERY fiscally conservative and anti-consumer. I have no reason to doubt her political transformation being genuine; I just wish she would own up to her past and admit to the error of her ways. Otherwise it'll come back to bite her if she tries to attack Harris or Biden on their pasts.

It would be very weird to attack her for being a voter when Harris & Biden can be attacked for what they did while in office on the tax payer’s dime. Attacking somebody for being a Republican just seems odd especially considering there will be some level of persuasion for soft GOP women and GOP-leaning independents.

[Rookie Yinzer]

GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!

[Rookie Yinzer]

Honestly, her use of "Latinx" in the first debate was much more ridiculous than this.

How and why does that bother you? LOL.

[Rookie Yinzer]

Honestly, her use of "Latinx" in the first debate was much more ridiculous than this.

How and why does that bother you? LOL.

Because no words in Spanish end in two consonants, and the word is grammatical nonsense in Spanish.

This is true. Projecting sexism onto -o/-a endings is the whitest thing ever and wildly misunderstands the Spanish language. Even if you really wanted to get rid of language genders, one could always use the already existent -e ending. -x is linguistically absurd, blatantly disregards Hispanic worldviews, and has a distinctly Anglo orgin.

Fair, but I know plenty of Hispanic people who refer to themselves as Latinx

Yeah I definitely started using it at the direction of young Hispanic activists I know.