Trump approval ratings thread 1.2

[Rookie Yinzer]

All that he can convince those who 'failed' to vote for him the last time is that that their vote for Hillary Clinton was the right vote to make.

Not to mention those who were inclined to vote for Hillary, but didn't because they thought Trump wouldn't win or those who voted third party because they couldn't stomach Hillary but would vote Democrat otherwise. His win was really weak and anyone with common sense would work to endear themselves to "others" instead of disparaging them at every turn.

[Rookie Yinzer]

Love those NC numbers. Any of the 2020 "Sun Belt" prospects will be basically living there throughout their campaign.

[Rookie Yinzer]

Carter 28% (June 1979)
GHW Bush 29% (July 1992)

Trump is going to be a one term president. I don't care what happened in 2016.

[Rookie Yinzer]

Carter 28% (June 1979)
GHW Bush 29% (July 1992)

Trump is going to be a one term president. I don't care what happened in 2016.

I still don't get why people act like 2016 proved approval numbers don't matter. All it proved was that if you take one unpopular candidate and pit them against another unpopular candidate, one will win, and not necessarily the one that is only slightly less unpopular.

As far as I am concerned, if Trump is as unpopular as he is now (or even slightly less so), he's not going to win reelection. If he faces off against someone who is fairly popular and clean, ethics-wise, most people who strongly disapprove of him will not vote for him again and those who only somewhat disapprove will probably defect in smaller but not insignificant numbers as well.

Honestly.

Clinton was viewed as inevitable. Like three days before the election 70 percent of the American public thought she was going to be the next president. That gave potential Clinton voters permission to vote third party or stay home. Granted, she didn’t have a particularly inspiring campaign issue that would override this perceived inevitablity (this was her fault) and she didn’t have a base fired up ready to throw an incumbent out of power like Trump did. However, Trump is NOT going to have that luxury in 2020. His election was a perfect storm and occurred despite the absolutely terrible candidate he was. They can tout his shaky electoral win all day, but he was terrible. And he’s only gotten worse.

[Rookie Yinzer]

and the Democratic Party is rather divided at the moment.

Fake news.

[Rookie Yinzer]

Senator Mitch McConnell (R), 30-62 (yes, you read that right!)

Wonder if ALG would go up against him again if he doesn't retire.

[Rookie Yinzer]

Trump could still win in 2020 if the fundamentals make people who don't really like him give him the benefit of the doubt. That is pretty much how Obama and Bush got reelected. They both got to 51% by convincing swing voters it was too soon to judge them because they were in the middle of implementing their signature policies. With W, it was Iraq and with Obama, it was Obamacare. However, Trump hasn't really done anything yet that would need him to be reelected. The alternative might be for him to win like Clinton did in 1996 by claiming that the status quo is working but that only worked because Clinton lost Congress and the economy was going strong.

Trump lacks self-awareness and political gravitas. He is an incompetent idiot that BS'd his way into the White House because Clinton was unpopular, depressed her own base, and enough independents broke for him because he was "different". Unless the 2020 nominee is Andrew Cuomo, who embodies everything projected onto Hillary Clinton, Trump is not going to win IMO. He is an undisciplined old fart further emboldened by his scant win that was decided by a razor thin margin in three states.

[Rookie Yinzer]

I personally feel Charlottesville was the tipping point for the sliver of people who were actually open to giving him a chance. He is not recovering. He is a morally bankrupt cretin incapable of empathy and self-reflection. He is a pea-brained child who intentionally pisses on those who do not support him. The claims of him being able to get back to 45-50 percent or even breaking that are hysterical.

[Rookie Yinzer]

If you truly claim to care about the smallest minority of individuals, then you would oppose the Electoral College like it was cancer. Which insofar as a government based on popular representation, it kind of is.

He doesn't. He wants the electoral college to remain because it is only through this archaic, convoluted system that Republicans can get elected in its current form. If you go to pure popular vote the Republicans would have to reform and back off from its current Nazi-friendly platform. He knows the Democrat would win every time because the Republicans are not popular. They won House Elections by only one point, yet have 50 seats on the Democrats. Gerrymandering and the Electoral College will not go away with extremist Republicans hanging around.

[Rookie Yinzer]

The Democratic party may realize too late that Kamala Harris is not the best candidate to win working class whites in the midwest.

The guy who considers everybody to the right of Lenin a fascist is suddenly concerned about a candidate's appeal to Joe Sixpack from Redneckville, Missouri.

This. I don't get why leftists and Bernie bros are so concerned about winning working class white Trump voters when they're the ones okay with racism and a capitalist country... yet all these leftists never say sh**t about appealing to working class people of color and working class democrats who probably want to see a more socialized society.

They’re just as threatened by POC as Deplorables are. They just tolerate us until we voice concerns about our specific issues or vote in a way they don’t like.

[Rookie Yinzer]

The Democratic party may realize too late that Kamala Harris is not the best candidate to win working class whites in the midwest.

The guy who considers everybody to the right of Lenin a fascist is suddenly concerned about a candidate's appeal to Joe Sixpack from Redneckville, Missouri.

This. I don't get why leftists and Bernie bros are so concerned about winning working class white Trump voters when they're the ones okay with racism and a capitalist country... yet all these leftists never say sh**t about appealing to working class people of color and working class democrats who probably want to see a more socialized society.

They’re just as threatened by POC as Deplorables are. They just tolerate us until we voice concerns about our specific issues or vote in a way they don’t like.

Here's how Bernie does with Campaign Zero's issues. Clearly he and Trump are exactly alike.

That's not what I said. Learn how to read.

I lived through the days of Bush having a 23% approval rating. 40-46% with Donald Trump shouldn't warrant the freakouts, tbh.

LOL. Bush was at the end of two terms, had an economy on the verge of collapse, two wars, horrible handling of Hurricane Katrina that decimated his black support.

Trump is doing terribly for a FIRST YEAR president. He is an extremely unlikable a**hole.

[Rookie Yinzer]

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So casual racism? Look, let's not be PC here; let's be honest and talk about what the "cultural" issues are that fueled Trump. Discomfort from white people at black people talking about racism, white discomfort at cultural differences from immigrants, etc. I see this casual racism everyday, it's very common. Even many Democratic voters and liberals have it, but those who adored Trump for these reasons took it much further and evidently believe it more strongly.

Think of the kind of people who were my grandparents, who threatened to disown my mom (not sure how seriously) when she brought home a black boyfriend. White family, 1980s suburban Chicago. Many are still around, probably a little less racist but still alive and kicking.

I'm sure that story is fake. But, yes, the moral of that fake story was that black people and other racial minorities need to shut the f**k up and stop making white people uncomfortable after whites put the institutions in place that caused these structural issues in the first place.

[Rookie Yinzer]

Trump is currently sitting at 40% approval. Unless you thought he was going to get less than 40% of the vote in 2020 (in which case you might be retarded), why do you care that he's rising? Would it really have mattered if more solid McCain voters approved of Bush and gave him a 45% rating instead of a 25% rating? It makes no practical difference. I'll be worried when Trump can expand beyond people that already voted for him, the vast majority of which will again rationalize a vote for him in 2020 even if Democrats nominated Jesus Christ himself.

This! All the concern trolling over people that are going to vote for him regardless. What matters is the Democratic nominee and getting OUR base out. These people are going to label whoever the Dems nominate as a gun hating, communist, gay, Anti-Christ Muslim infidel.