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Question: If Trump was still President, would Russia have invaded Ukraine already?
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West_Midlander
Junior Chimp
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« on: February 20, 2022, 01:58:07 PM »


Somehow it's Trump's fault even though Obama was the guy who stood by and let it happen.
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West_Midlander
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2022, 05:09:54 PM »

Since Trump was at odds with the generals at times and since people on the left say he weakend our country, our international standing, NATO, and our national security, it seems that 2017-2019 (before COVID) would have been super ideal for Russia to strike.
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West_Midlander
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2022, 05:24:45 PM »

     Putin had four years to act with Trump in the White House and didn't. That fact is a serious problem for the "yes" narrative.

Things take time, don't they? It's not like you can just put together an invasion on a whim.

For example, Bush had been president for what, 26 months?, when the invasion of Iraq started.

It's not like Russia's encroachment on their neighbors is a new development. I mean, they invaded Crimea in 2014.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2022, 07:03:21 PM »

    Putin had four years to act with Trump in the White House and didn't. That fact is a serious problem for the "yes" narrative.

Things take time, don't they? It's not like you can just put together an invasion on a whim.

For example, Bush had been president for what, 26 months?, when the invasion of Iraq started.

It's not like Russia's encroachment on their neighbors is a new development. I mean, they invaded Crimea in 2014.

I ... didn't say it was?

I can't imagine that anyone on this entire forum is going to deny that Trump would not raise any objection to Russia invading and annexing the Russian-speaking portions of Ukraine. I mean, obviously, right?

Therefore, if Trump were still president, Putin would be having an easier time getting this done. People can still lurve Trump while also acknowledging that undeniable truth.

If Trump is so good for Russia why is Russia only (in recent times) moving against Ukraine in such a hostile way with Democrats in the White House (e.g., Obama, Biden)?
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