Bernie Sanders (Un-)Endorses Cenk Uygur in CA-25 race

[John Dule]

sawx is one of the most annoying posters on this site.  He says outrageous things and defends the indefensible, and then when anyone calls him out he redirects the conversation to his personal gripes and posts outrageous hyperbole until the conversation is completely derailed.

In this thread, for instance, he's said that Ana Kasparian doxxing Maria Mendoza-Ferrer's children is OK, because Maria attacked Bernie Sanders on Twitter so she's a "chaos agent" and deserves what she gets.  This is a deplorable stance.  And it is indefensible, which is why he doesn't defend it!

Instead, when he got pushback, he posted a slew of personal gripes about Peter Daou (??) and Maggie Oliver (??) that has nothing to do with this thread, and accusing other posters of "vile slander."  It's purely a distraction tactic by a guy with zero reputation to lose.

We're reaching Trump-esque levels of projection here.

[John Dule]

"Projection" is just what people say when they want to use the world's laziest insult but sound sophisticated while doing it.

Also I challenge you to find one example of where someone was having an argument with me and I completely ignored what they were saying to redirect the conversation into unrelated personal grievances.  Just one.

See, this is what I'm talking about. At this very moment, you are derailing this thread to gripe about a personal grievance, all while you're complaining about him doing that very same thing. It's irony on a cosmic scale.

[John Dule]

sawx is one of the most annoying posters on this site.  He says outrageous things and defends the indefensible, and then when anyone calls him out he redirects the conversation to his personal gripes and posts outrageous hyperbole until the conversation is completely derailed.

In this thread, for instance, he's said that Ana Kasparian doxxing Maria Mendoza-Ferrer's children is OK, because Maria attacked Bernie Sanders on Twitter so she's a "chaos agent" and deserves what she gets.  This is a deplorable stance.  And it is indefensible, which is why he doesn't defend it!

Instead, when he got pushback, he posted a slew of personal gripes about Peter Daou (??) and Maggie Oliver (??) that has nothing to do with this thread, and accusing other posters of "vile slander."  It's purely a distraction tactic by a guy with zero reputation to lose.

So the doxing came after the "chaos agent" comments. If you want me to formally condemn every single bad thing the Bernie people do at your demands, I'm not going to do that. I'm not "defending" anything because I've already said that doxing for political purposes is in bad taste when Briahna Joy Gray doxed armandodkos.

I said Mendoza Ferrer was a chaos agent because she is a chaos agent. There's a difference between your stance of "I hate Bernie and I'll work my ass off to make sure he loses the primary, but if he wins I'll give my all for him to stop Trump" and "I'll never vote for Bernie Sanders under any circumstances". Mendoza Ferrer objectively takes it a step further than you ever could, and would throw this country to Trump if it means stopping a Democrat she doesn't like. I see no difference from her and, say, Tulsi Gabbard or Nina Turner or whichever people of influence won't vote for Biden.

Once again, you know you can't win the argument, so you've resorted to slandering me and putting words in my mouth that are far beyond my character. Notice how I'm much more civil with X and even James Monroe. Monroe may have similar beliefs to you, but he presents them in a respectful, well-constructed manner. "What about the Bernie Bros" may be one part of the argument, but the other parts are well-reasoned, well-constructed rebuttals that I happen to disagree with. Yours and Jerry's haven't been.

You have absolutely no right to judge my posts in any sort of fashion. You're utterly allergic to personal responsibility, constantly blame others on here for your poor choices and actions (you literally said that the first time you slandered me, I had it coming because of my political beliefs), and constantly personally attack any poster who doesn't share your beliefs. Oh, but if they come at you with the same energy you come at everyone else with? You constantly play the victim about how you're being attacked and you're just an innocent person fighting back against the leftward menace. Newsflash: We don't hate you because of your political views. We hate you because you're a cancer on the forum.

This is exactly what he wants you to do and it's astonishingly unreasonable, even by internet standards.