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Former President tack50
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« on: June 28, 2020, 11:29:57 AM »

The other day on Discord I launched a comparison between some real life electorates in the US, and some US states.

My conclusion was that the electorate in Atlasia most closely resembles that of states like Vermont (55D-30R), Maryland (55D-25R) or Hawaii (54D-29R)

While real life comparisons can only really take you so far and often they fail, it is worth noting that in real life the first 2 states actually have Republican governors (and both elected in landslides)

So why have Federalists been unable to win for a long time? Is there no suitable candidate like the R governors of those 2 states? Is it because of the online nature of the game? Is it something else?
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« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2020, 03:09:01 AM »

Posting here not to derail the Fed convention

Despite Yankee's points on "we are recruiting everywhere we can", I would say recent results disprove that point and the net is not being cast wide enough.

The inescapable truth is that, if Federalists want to win an election, it is not good enough to recruit conservatives and centrists. They are going to also need to recruit a good chunk of the D-state blob that is all too common on Atlas these days.

These are people who are firmly on the left even if they are not radical socialists. But if these people do not vote Federalist, the party is screwed and will not win an election.

The Federalists can be a firmly right of center party; or a winning party but in Atlasia they cannot be both

Of course, the question is how to recruit them and I do not have an answer to that.
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« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2020, 11:21:20 AM »

Posting here not to derail the Fed convention

Despite Yankee's points on "we are recruiting everywhere we can", I would say recent results disprove that point and the net is not being cast wide enough.

The inescapable truth is that, if Federalists want to win an election, it is not good enough to recruit conservatives and centrists. They are going to also need to recruit a good chunk of the D-state blob that is all too common on Atlas these days.

These are people who are firmly on the left even if they are not radical socialists. But if these people do not vote Federalist, the party is screwed and will not win an election.

The Federalists can be a firmly right of center party; or a winning party but in Atlasia they cannot be both

Of course, the question is how to recruit them and I do not have an answer to that.

What reason do they have to join us when they can just join you guys? There is nothing about you or about us that would induce them not to join you in a vacuum with all things being equal. Its not like the olden days were a good chunk of the center-left hated Labor's guts because of what it did to the Liberal Party.

Like I said I do not have an answer to that; that is for you to figure out Tongue
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« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2020, 04:29:16 PM »

"You should totally do this thing. I have no idea if it will work, or how to implement it, but you should totally do it"

Like I always say, there are on paper 3 ways for Feds to make a comeback given the makeup of Atlas-at large right now

1) Win defections based on ideological moderation. This basically requires the Feds to become the "Bidenist party" for good while somehow looking more credible than Labor doing that.

2) Win defections based on friendship. This requires one Fed to basically talk to people (most likely on Discord, though it can be done on forum, but it is much harder there) and become friends with them, getting them to vote as their friend says. This was the strategy used by DFW and later by YT.

3) Recruit more people. Basically get more blue, yellow, brown and lime green avatars to join Atlasia and vote.

I think we can already discard 3 from the start since, per multiple Feds' admissions, there is certainly no untapped mass of blue avatars lying around.

2 is probably the easiest of the 3; but unless the Feds have some unused DFW-like character laying around collecting dust, it is not happening. I suppose unless YT returns or a new DFW joins Atlasia, this can be safely discarded

That leaves strategy 1, probably the hardest of the 3 but also the only one that can be realistically implemented as of now.

As I say I have no idea how to implement any of the 3; but it is also not my job to do so. If I felt it was my job, I'd be joining the Federalists. Wink
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