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Question: Which of these countries (or entities) will be generally considered "superpowers" in about 50 years from now?
#1
China
 
#2
EU
 
#3
India
 
#4
Russia
 
#5
United States
 
#6
Other (please specify)
 
#7
None (no superpowers at all for one reason or another)
 
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Straha
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,787
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Political Matrix
E: 6.52, S: 2.00

« on: September 01, 2007, 06:34:09 PM »

China, US and India as the big 3. China with military power, India with total economic size and the US with tech/standard of living.
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Undisguised Sockpuppet
Straha
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,787
Uruguay


Political Matrix
E: 6.52, S: 2.00

« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2007, 06:40:34 PM »

I think it's very possible that Brazil could arise as a super power.  It is the fifth most populous country in the world and they seem to have a stable democracy going on.   Brazil also has an abundance of natural resources given its large land area and the fact that much of that area is covered in rainforest.  Brazil also has a lot of influence in Latin America so it is possible that they could build a strong coalition in any international negotiating.

To quote something I heard once, but can't remember the source of:  "Brazil has the potential to be a major power, and it always will." Wink
I'm pretty sure the quote was more like "Brazil is the country of the future and it always will be"
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Undisguised Sockpuppet
Straha
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,787
Uruguay


Political Matrix
E: 6.52, S: 2.00

« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2007, 07:04:49 PM »

Russia and Brazil seem unlikely to become full blown superpowers. Too small of population.
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Undisguised Sockpuppet
Straha
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,787
Uruguay


Political Matrix
E: 6.52, S: 2.00

« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2007, 08:12:54 PM »

We're slowly decaying, we're losing civil liberties, education is sucking(causing us to lose our tech/cultural lead) and the economy is being more and more corrupt. A good analogy for the US's international role as it is now is the soviet union in the late 60s. The #1 power but will be an ex-superpower in 20-30 years(That said, we both have a quiet sense of national unity which lets us work to do big goals like the manhatten project or getting people on the moon AND a homogenous population(homogenous in terms of norms believed in if not the outer trappings of cultures) so a US return to superpower status decades after a collapse isn't unlikely(It wouldn't much resemble our US. Our current governmental institutions are why we're in our current hole)).

Look at http://www.jmooneyham.com/decline-america.html
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Undisguised Sockpuppet
Straha
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,787
Uruguay


Political Matrix
E: 6.52, S: 2.00

« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2007, 08:31:49 PM »

You think America is screwed the EU's entitlements problems make our SS problem seem minor, they're becoming Eurabia, their mainstream culture is even more luddite/"bioethics" obsessed than other western nations, political correctness represses non-mainstream opinions so political violence is staring, their economies grow slower than the US/east asia, even with mass islamic immigration their populations in most states are stagnant with some declining(the decline is what worries me. Stable population is good but the euros are first getting stability then quickly going to decline) and they have alot of economic ties to the decaying US. The 21st century for Europe will probably resemble Argentina's fate. Europe in 2007 was prosperous and one of the world leaders in many stats while Europe in 2107 in my opinion is a place which probably lags the developed nations.
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,787
Uruguay


Political Matrix
E: 6.52, S: 2.00

« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2007, 08:38:29 PM »

However, rants comparing America and Europe aside the euros are significantly more prepared for the post-fossil fuel world than us(even if they have worse economic/population/immigration issues than us it balances out since we're SO car dependant and phobic of nuke power it's not funny) so both places are roughly equal in how badly they're screwed. The french get 70% of their power from nuclear power and European nations are ALOT less car dependant than we are.
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Straha
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,787
Uruguay


Political Matrix
E: 6.52, S: 2.00

« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2007, 08:49:23 PM »

Cute but you ignore the serious internal issues in all 3 potential superpowers. America is already silently imploding(blame reaganites/club for growth types/LBJ/Dubya), China could easily implode if its overheating economy crashes/environmental problems get worse and India is in a bad geopolitical neighborhood(borders Pakistan) plus has ALOT of ethnic tension/inequality(even worse its not just between social class/caste but between regions).
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,787
Uruguay


Political Matrix
E: 6.52, S: 2.00

« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2007, 08:30:47 PM »

India is democratic which china isn't.
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,787
Uruguay


Political Matrix
E: 6.52, S: 2.00

« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2007, 07:52:21 AM »

The EU has zero chance of being a superpower. In 50 years europe will have MANY millions less as euros flee for the anglosphere dominions, southern cone latin america(Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Uruguay) and the United States to get away from the islamic onslaught.
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