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Question: Will Demographics Grant the Democrats an Invincible One Party Rule?
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Yes
 
#2
No, The GOP Adapts
 
#3
No, But the Map Will Look Very Different
 
#4
No, A New Party Rises Up
 
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Technocracy Timmy
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« on: April 18, 2017, 11:34:39 PM »

Who exactly is saying permanent? No one should be listening to those who say permanent. The current demographic trajectory and the way things are still currently going suggests a period of Democratic advantage.

And if Republicans have to switch up, move back to the center and cater to minorities, well, that's kind of still a loss for them, no? Further, while I think Republicans can make inroads among minorities eventually, when that happens is the question. It won't happen overnight, and in the meantime you'll have leagues of white Millennials pushing the white vote a bit back towards Democrats.

When you look at long-term trends, you'd have to be making up your own numbers to realistically think the future will continue to belong to Republicans. Once they finally fall, they will rebound after a spell, but you guys will live under a world Democrats built for probably about as long as we have had to endure Reagan's nightmare.

On that merit, though, I feel the Millenial vote will be cancelled out by Generation Z.

In that case, the big question lies in how the GOP brings in minorities. I think, actually, that as the Democrats are forced to abandon identity politics in a bid to win back WWCs, that their ironclad grip on minorities will loosen ever so slightly. It will be in the GOP's court as to what to do, in that case.

I tried digging up everything I could find on Generation Z and while I suspect them to not be quite as liberal as millennials (in the long run), I don't think they'll be a conservative generation at all.
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« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2017, 09:36:17 AM »

The reason the two parties have been around for so long is their ability to morph themselves into whatever they need to be in order to win. Sooner or later I think we'll see a more minority friendly GOP, as unlikely as that seems now.

I can see this happening only under two conditions. First, the GOP must lose at least three straight presidential elections in a row along with multiple midterms. Second, a significant number of working class whites must ditch the GOP over the course of those three electoral cycles in such a consistent fashion that the GOP realizes that expanding their share of the minority vote will be the only way they win going forward.
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Technocracy Timmy
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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2017, 03:41:51 PM »

The Democrats will be totally dominant and the Republican Party will survive only as a catch all big tent of people opposed to the Democrats. It will not have a consistent ideology but it will occasionally win elections when the Democrats mess up.

Can't tell if you're being sarcastic.

Same. I agree that the GOP is in trouble in the House and at the presidential level (let's get real here: Had it not been for Clinton, Trump would have lost the election), but they'll still be a strong force in the Senate (and of course the House as well). A complete and total one-party rule isn't going to happen, no matter how much people like TD want that to be the case.

I mean I would agree if Trump governed in a more economically populist way but seeing as though he's gonna continue the same 36 year old economic mantra it doesn't seem like the GOP will adapt on the economic front.

The New Deal macroeconomic regime from 1932-1970's needed restructing and it looks like the monetarist and supply side macroeconomic regime is gonna need another restructuring soon. Trump and a lot of his supporters seem to sort of "get" that the current economic paradigm isn't working well right now. The problem is that Trump is either helpless to do anything or doesn't care.
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