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cvparty
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« on: May 28, 2019, 06:23:23 PM »

Weird how nobody ever proposes introducing an electoral college for governor elections if it’s such a great system.
#allcountiesmatter
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« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2019, 05:34:27 AM »

Weird how nobody ever proposes introducing an electoral college for governor elections if it’s such a great system.
#allcountiesmatter

Pretty sure I made such a case before, maybe not on this forum.

Also, additionally, if only the Dem states pass these "guidelines" then only the Dem states will go the way they always have...unless there's a rare Republican pop vote win, then they are screwed either by having to vote for the Republican or go back on their policy and pulling back the curtain.

Heavy Republican/largely rural states will not pass these "guidelines" for obvious reasons either way. 
So you have states hamstrung into voting for the popular vote winner and some voting the old way with their state's popular vote or possible faithless electors. 

This is going to just give Republican states more flexibility in deciding the elections. Congratulations, you've owned yourselves Dems.
 

Do you even bother reading about or looking into something before making an idiotic post about it?

States that join the NPVIC do so on the condition that they’ll only start to operate under it once enough states for 270 EVs have also signed. So if not enough states have joined it, they’ll vote as they currently do.

Well good luck getting there, and doesn't moot my point about it backfiring if the Republican gets the popular vote.

It’s only a “backfire” if you assume that the goal is to get Democrats elected and not, you know, actually use the PV to decide the election winner?

Don't pretend that's not the point of all this.
say this again when the EC begins to favor democrats
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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2019, 09:51:58 AM »

that title is so salty
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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2019, 09:54:07 AM »

I don't understand his argument. The 10 smallest states have received fewer visits in 2016 than Ohio and that two-thirds of visits in 2016 were done in the largest 20 states.
It just confuses me when people fall back on the argument that the smaller states are assisted by the EC, literally every piece of data from recent elections points to the opposite.


And what exactly would the NPV do to make the candidates visit the smaller states and not just the most populous ones?

And the argument about smaller states is because a voter in Wyoming has a more weighted EV vs a California EV.  But the argument for that is that's so those smaller populations have a chance in hell of electing a president they want, not so much just for visits by candidates.
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« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2019, 02:25:23 PM »

I don't understand his argument. The 10 smallest states have received fewer visits in 2016 than Ohio and that two-thirds of visits in 2016 were done in the largest 20 states.
It just confuses me when people fall back on the argument that the smaller states are assisted by the EC, literally every piece of data from recent elections points to the opposite.


And what exactly would the NPV do to make the candidates visit the smaller states and not just the most populous ones?

And the argument about smaller states is because a voter in Wyoming has a more weighted EV vs a California EV.  But the argument for that is that's so those smaller populations have a chance in hell of electing a president they want, not so much just for visits by candidates.


So instead of those states, you'd have: CA, NY, IL, TX, FL, and maybe a few others like OH, PA, GA.  Don't see how that's fixing anything except if you live in those states and want to feel like your vote matters more than "flyover country".
do u not understand this graph it’s called a rate
so no, the amount of campaigning one does in a certain state would correlate with the population. yes people would campaign in california at least 3x more than in pennsylvania because 40m people live there compared to 12m—every state on the graph would be visible and rather close in size, meaning everyone’s vote would be regarded very similarly if not identically in value. in fact, you’d probably see candidates making trips to nebraska, oklahoma, and kentucky and all over the country when no one has ever paid attention to those states before bc now people’s votes there would finally have true value. as opposed to right now where literally 39 states are not visible on that cartogram
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