Pete Buttigieg 2020 campaign megathread

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Oh please JB! He's a horrible candidate, the end! WWC voters are not going to vote for someone articulate and nerdy as him. They are not the sharpest tools in the shed and therefore, they want someone who speaks to them in a way a six year old would be able to understand. In addition, there is a homophobic section of the black community that would NEVER vote for a gay man, let alone one with the word butt in his last name.
You combine those two factors and he's a goner.

this is a shtpost right ?

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Those who think his lack of black support can be explained by homophobia: how much support do you think he would have otherwise?

i feel like his main problem with minorities is name recognition rather than something like being gay. so honestly his support would probably only be like 1 or 2 points higher if the whole homophobia issue weren’t at play

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It's not his fault that he can't win statewide in Indiana, and it should not be considered a knock against him for that being an objective fact. Also, Mourdock's rape comments came after his race against Pete.

The latter two comments are fair criticisms, but I think dismissing Pete as an "empty suit who will not deliver on his promises" is a bit of an unfair shake to him, though I agree he absolutely should address these concerns and do more to make the case that he's not just some focus group politician.

Evan Bayh was an ex-Governor and senator from Indiana. He was in the final 3 (Biden, Bath and Sebelius) to be VP. Bayh was a coin flip from being Obamas vp.

Jon Tester (Montana), Bob Casey Jr (Pennsylvania), Sherrod Brown (Ohio) and Amy Klobuchar (Minnesota) have consistently outran every democrat in their states and when they win pundits brush it under the carpet. It shows how skilful they are as politicians that they can build coalitions of different voting groups.

Pete should run to be governor of Indiana. The democratic field has so much choice and I do understand Pete buttegieg support - lobbyists have given him cash, he’s spending 10 to 1 in Iowa according to Bernie sanders campaign

Also, for good measure, the other time he threw the election to a Republican by running as a spoiler:

omg thanks for showing us that independents almost never win

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Buttigieg said Democrats "aren't known for worrying about deficits and the debt" and Democrats need to "start getting interested in deficits and debt". This is a horrendous moderate hero stance. It blatantly ignores history given that Bill Clinton brought the budget from a large deficit to a big surplus and Obama reduced the deficit by 2/3rds, while of course every Republican administration starting with Reagan has seen a big increase in the deficit due to Republicans cutting taxes for the rich and increasing military spending. It isn't a valid criticism that Democrats have been disinterested about the deficit and fiscally irresponsible, so it's weird that Buttigieg seems to think this or at least says it publicly. Even while criticizing Trump, Buttigieg echoes Republican talking points. This seems illogical, why can't he like most Democrats make the case for the party on fiscal responsibility and be honest? Maybe he thinks undermining his party will attract swing voters and make him more moderate, most likely this kind of point-scoring will just help the Republicans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7DPbqjuKFA

i dont think he was saying republicans are better with the budget, just that dems aren’t known for managing US debt like they are for other issues
https://twitter.com/lizcgoodwin/status/1202697922372087809?s=21

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https://twitter.com/BoldProgressive/status/1208580552032489472
Like Biden may be offering a return to the status quo, but at least my nostalgia makes me willing to back him in the general. If Buttigieg somehow wins the election, I really don't think I can do it.

Read the article and tell me that's a fair headline: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/25/us/politics/democratic-candidates-abortion-survey.html#link-1df6121c

Over-the-counter (O.T.C.) misoprostol and mifepristone: Medication abortion is known to be safe and effective and could expand abortion access, especially for those who live in remote areas, or in states where routine, private and nonjudgmental abortion care is limited. While I support the spirit of this policy suggestion and efforts to expand the availability and accessibility of abortion for all, there are a few major barriers we must overcome before misoprostol and mifepristone can be sold O.T.C.

First, a self-administered abortion is illegal in some states, so making it available over-the-counter could have the unintended consequence of setting people up for a criminal investigation or even jail. We must first work on decriminalization efforts. Second, there are currently several regulatory constraints limiting mifepristone’s distribution and prescription. To overcome these, we will have to work closely with regulatory bodies such as the F.D.A. to lift these restrictions.

The O.T.C. approach holds great promise, but we also need more research into the pros and cons and unintended consequences of its use in the context of the United States. Steps we can take in the interim to improve access to abortion include expanding access to abortion via telehealth, eliminating the Risk Evaluation and Mitigation Strategy (REMS) warning that ignores decades of evidence indicating that these medications are safe, and expanding the types of medical professionals able to prescribe them.

this primary is pretty frustrating to watch. there’s been kind of a mob mentality on sites like twitter

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How stupid are the people of Iowa? (posting in Buttigieg thread only because she is a "Buttigieg supporter" and this isn't worth making a new thread for):

https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/status/1217864280126775297

if you think about it this actually somewhat makes sense if the voter is an ancestral democrat who happens to like buttigieg? (since he seems to draw disproportionate support from republican voters)

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i don’t see how buttigieg can vault past sanders and biden even with a IA-NH sweep, but so long as he thrives, it hurts biden so i’m fine with him staying in the race

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Pete pretty much has to win Iowa or its over for him right?

i think it’s already over

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My guess rn is that he comes second in New Hampshire with a small bounce, perhaps if the caucuses hadn't been such a mess he could have gotten a bigger bounce and could end up winning New Hampshire (most likely not even then). I'm not sure where his candidacy goes from there. Some new polls in the coming days will be very interesting to see if he's picking up more support.

agreed, i think a victory in NH isn't out of the question though since its demographics are friendly to him and he seems to have a strong appeal to independents. we don't really know what the effect of iowa will be yet

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Why did Pete go to a 3% chance on 538 when Bernie went to 49% after a tied result in Iowa?

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primary-forecast/

they are assuming bernie wins using the upshot’s forecast

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funny how buttigieg probably would win NH without klobuchar. this primary feels similar to the GOP's in 2016

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Finally some news that will excite both Tender Branson’s horny side and his racist side...Lis Smith created a sock puppet account of a Nigerian Pete Buttigieg supporter and used it to trash Bernie supporters and give herself compliments:

https://twitter.com/julianfeeld/status/1229082186780774405?s=21

Twitter is free. My god...what a joy.

these conspiracy theories are getting weirder every day