Pacific Legislature Official Thread

[bgwah]

Here is some legislation I'm proposing:

Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill
1) The use of electroshock weapons (including but not limited to tasers) by law enforcement within the Pacific Region is hereby banned.

Abstain Bill
1) When one votes "abstain" in the Pacific Legislature, it shall not be counted when determining if the legislation being voted on has received a majority of votes cast. This will prevent voting "abstain" from counting as a de facto nay vote.

Comments?

[bgwah]

Regarding the electroshock weapons restrictions bill, is it illegal for police in the pacific region to use pepper spray/bullets or batons?

Yes. This bill only prohibits electroshock weapons. They kill dozens of people every year.

[bgwah]

Regarding the electroshock weapons restrictions bill, is it illegal for police in the pacific region to use pepper spray/bullets or batons?

Yes. This bill only prohibits electroshock weapons. They kill dozens of people every year.

so it IS illegal for police to use pepper spray and batons?
(sorry maybe my brain is not quite working today)

haha, oops I responded incorrectly. This bill only bans electroshock weapons. Batons and what not are still legal.

[bgwah]

Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill
1) The use of electroshock weapons (including but not limited to tasers) by law enforcement within the Pacific Region is hereby banned.
X Governor Jesus

Abstain Bill
1) When one votes "abstain" in the Pacific Legislature, it shall not be counted when determining if the legislation being voted on has received a majority of votes cast. This will prevent voting "abstain" from counting as a de facto nay vote.
X Governor Jesus

[bgwah]

Voting on the open is following:

Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill
1) The use of electroshock weapons (including but not limited to tasers) by law enforcement within the Pacific Region is hereby banned.

Abstain Bill
1) When one votes "abstain" in the Pacific Legislature, it shall not be counted when determining if the legislation being voted on has received a majority of votes cast. This will prevent voting "abstain" from counting as a de facto nay vote.


I vote aye on both.

[bgwah]

Weird that I checked this almost exactly one week after I opened voting...

Anyway, the Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill passes 2-1, and the Abstain Bill passes 3-0.

[bgwah]

I "re-propose" any of these if the time limit has passed.

Resolution Concerning the Federal Military
It is the position of the people of the Pacific Region that no person should serve in the federal military unless their sexual orientation is of a homosexual persuasion.

Election Day Bill
1.   All Election Days in the Pacific shall be designated as official government holidays.
2.   No employer may fire or otherwise carry out any reprisal against any employee on the basis of their choice not to work on an Election Day in the Pacific.
3.   The above shall not apply to Regional or other government employees essential for the running of elections or for other functions as deemed necessary for the day-to-day maintenance of government.

Protection of Personal Gambling Bill
1. No municipality within the Pacific may prohibit or restrict gambling among those 16 years of age or older that is organized only among those who are participating in the gambling among themselves and does not involve a "house fee" or any other type of overhead cost.
2. Courts shall be permitted to issue exemptions to this among individuals on parole or who have been convicted of a felony (excluding nonviolent drug or prostitution related offenses).


Is that all, Ebowed? lolll

[bgwah]

Voting is open on the following legislation for exactly one week:

Resolution Concerning the Federal Military
It is the position of the people of the Pacific Region that no person should serve in the federal military unless their sexual orientation is of a homosexual persuasion.

Election Day Bill
1.   All Election Days in the Pacific shall be designated as official government holidays.
2.   No employer may fire or otherwise carry out any reprisal against any employee on the basis of their choice not to work on an Election Day in the Pacific.
3.   The above shall not apply to Regional or other government employees essential for the running of elections or for other functions as deemed necessary for the day-to-day maintenance of government.

Protection of Personal Gambling Bill
1. No municipality within the Pacific may prohibit or restrict gambling among those 16 years of age or older that is organized only among those who are participating in the gambling among themselves and does not involve a "house fee" or any other type of overhead cost.
2. Courts shall be permitted to issue exemptions to this among individuals on parole or who have been convicted of a felony (excluding nonviolent drug or prostitution related offenses).

[bgwah]

Aye on all

[bgwah]

The Resolution Concerning the Federal Military has failed 2-2.

The Election Day Bill has passed 4-0.
X Governor Bgwah

The Protection of Personal Gambling Bill  has passed 4-0.
X Governor Bgwah

[bgwah]

Prison Diet Bill
1) Whereas meat is a financially and environmentally expensive luxury that humans can live healthily without.
2) Whereas there is no compelling reason to reward criminals in prisons with this expensive luxury.
3) Therefore all prisons and jails within the Pacific Region shall feed their inmates a strict vegetarian diet.

X Governor Bgwah

[bgwah]

Prison Diet Bill
1) Whereas meat is a financially and environmentally expensive luxury that humans can live healthily without.
2) Whereas there is no compelling reason to reward criminals in prisons with this expensive luxury.
3) Therefore all prisons and jails within the Pacific Region shall feed their inmates a strict vegetarian diet.

X Governor Bgwah

Forcing a diet on a population? That seems a bit extreme/authoritarian... Also a vegitarian diet can be difficult to maintain on a healthy level (getting all your needed proteins and AA's), I really don't see how it would cost that much more to give them meat and we would probably have prison riots break out throughout the region.

I suppose forcing them in prisons is a bit too extreme for you? Forcing them to live in a cell a bit to extreme? Not allowing child rapists to walk through schools---that's extreme, too, I guess.

And difficult to maintain? Prison officials will of course make sure they get all of their protein and what not---it is only difficult to maintain if you're a retard.

Stupid question:

How/when is the Pacific legislature elected?

Every Pacific citizen is a legislator. Check out the Wiki and read the Second Pacific Constitution for more information

[bgwah]

Rocky Dennis Memorial Bill
1) Whereas Rocky Dennis was a brilliant, brave, hope-inspiring and kind individual from California.
2) Whereas Rocky Dennis is thus a great Pacifican hero and deserves to be honored as such.
3) Therefore the Rocky Mountains shall henceforth be known as the Rocky Dennis Mountains by the Pacific Government, and the people of this fine region demand that the federal government to follow suit.

X Governor Bgwah

[bgwah]

Voting is open on the following. Voting closes in exactly one week.

Prison Diet Bill
1) Whereas meat is a financially and environmentally expensive luxury that humans can live healthily without.
2) Whereas there is no compelling reason to reward criminals in prisons with this expensive luxury.
3) Therefore all prisons and jails within the Pacific Region shall feed their inmates a strict vegetarian diet.

Rocky Dennis Memorial Bill
1) Whereas Rocky Dennis was a brilliant, brave, hope-inspiring and kind individual from California.
2) Whereas Rocky Dennis is thus a great Pacifican hero and deserves to be honored as such.
3) Therefore the Rocky Mountains shall henceforth be known as the Rocky Dennis Mountains by the Pacific Government, and the people of this fine region demand that the federal government to follow suit.



AYE ON BOTH.

[bgwah]

I would like to add that the disrespect for individual rights in the first bill is astounding even if we are talking about prison imates, it still doesn't change the fact that they are HUMAN. I shutter to think of what would happen to this great region if more authoritarian bills such as this were to be enacted.

The prisons already pick and choose what food their inmates eat. How is this anymore authoritarian than putting them in prison in the first place? And how is this inhuman!?

I never realized how illogical you were.

And naming something after someone is resembles a cult? Does our state name resemble a cult? Or most of our county names? Or Seattle?

[bgwah]

Is this a joke?

How does forcing vegetarianism on inmates help the prisons do their job, which is to protect society from criminals?

Very surprised that a supposedly legitimate Senate candidate would vote for this nanny statist trash!

The purpose isn't to help "prisons do their job," read the bill again to see what the real purpose is.

And this is no more "nanny statist" than putting criminals in prison in the first place.

[bgwah]

Why not regulate what prisoners can eat in other areas too then?  How about banning them from having access to GM fruits and vegetables?

If we find that they are indeed very environmentally damaging, then we can consider it. But that is still a much-debated issue from what I know, so I see no reason to do it now.

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I don't think a less expensive diet for prisoners is fascist.

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Lack of chicken salt does not cause insanity, as far as I know.

[bgwah]

If your argument is that prison is a violation of rights in the first place, so it's okay to deprive inmates of meat, why are you arguing in favor of cutting the money we spend on them?

That is not my argument. I simply do not see why this is any "worse" than putting them in prison in the first place.

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I suppose my personal beliefs in fiscal and environmental responsibility are affecting my rationale, but then again can you honestly say that none of your legislation has anything to do with your beliefs?

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This part doesn't even deserve a response.

[bgwah]

I would like to add that the disrespect for individual rights in the first bill is astounding even if we are talking about prison imates, it still doesn't change the fact that they are HUMAN. I shutter to think of what would happen to this great region if more authoritarian bills such as this were to be enacted.

The prisons already pick and choose what food their inmates eat. How is this anymore authoritarian than putting them in prison in the first place? And how is this inhuman!?

I never realized how illogical you were.

And naming something after someone is resembles a cult? Does our state name resemble a cult? Or most of our county names? Or Seattle?

Most of our county names come from great leaders of the nation, Grant (president), Lewis and Clark (the explorers). I just would rather wait 50-100 years to name such a large feature after a person, this helps to let us have a more distanced view on things.

And some of this is not about logic, you still have not explained to me how it is worth it to strictly limit a population's diet against their will (we all know it would be) simply to same a small amount of money. Just let the inmates have their meat it is not that big of a deal.

The food available to them is already picked by the prison. Many aspects of their prison lives are "against their will," so I'm not sure what you're getting at.

I don't think any money should be wasted. Every cent of taxpayer money saved is worth it. I also see no compelling reason for the government to provide such an environmentally exhausting food source to these prisoners.

I'm actually kind of glad this bill has turned out to be so controversial! This is the best debating we've had going on in the legislature in over a year. Let's keep it up.

BTW, you guys should propose some legislation for fun.

[bgwah]

The Prison Diet Bill passes 3-2.

X Governor Bgwah

The Rocky Dennis Memorial Bill passes 4-1.

X Governor Bgwah

[bgwah]

Regional Motto Bill
1) The regional motto of the Pacific will be "In Rocky we trust" upon the passing of this legislation.
X Governor Bgwah

Rocky Dennis Memorial Bill, Part II
1) The face of the great Rocky Dennis shall be carved into Kings Peak, Utah.
2) This carving shall be 31 meters high.
3) This project shall be paid for by the money saved from the Prison Diet Bill.
4) Kings Peak shall be henceforth known as Mount Rockymore.
5) Carving shall begin immediately upon the passing of this bill.
X Governor Bgwah

Resolution concerning human colonization of outer space
1) The people of the Pacific Region demand that the first planet to be permanently colonized by human settlers be named after Rocky Dennis.
X Governor Bgwah

Renaming of Interstate 5 Bill
1) Interstate 5 shall now be known by the Pacific Government as Rocky Road.
X Governor Bgwah

Resolution concerning the Midwestern dictatorship
1) The people of the Pacific Region hereby condemn Midwestern Governor ilikeverin for his undemocratic dictatorship, demand that he resigns, and demand that the Midwest Regional constitution be amended so that it is more democratic.
X Governor Bgwah

Smoking Rights Amendment
1) The right of owners of private establishments, such as but not limited to restaurants and bars, to determine whether or not their establishments allow the smoking of tobacco by those of legal age shall not be infringed upon.
X Governor Bgwah

Gasoline Consumer Protection Act

1. All prices for gasoline displayed at gas stations must be rounded up to the nearest cent.
2. If a station is found noncompliant, the company operating the station shall be fined 10% of the earnings at that station during the period of noncompliance.

OKAY SURE WE CAN VOTE ON THIS SOON
X Governor Bgwah




Voting on all of the above will open sometime later this week.

[bgwah]

Smoking Rights Amendment
1) The right of owners of private establishments, such as but not limited to restaurants and bars, to determine whether or not their establishments allow the smoking of tobacco by those of legal age shall not be infringed upon.
X Governor Bgwah

hmmm... while I oppose this bill I think there are some amendments that could be added to make it better if it did indeed pass. Possibilities:
-An amendment that calls for all private establishments that do allow the smoking of tobacco to provide a non-smoking area for patrons who prefer a smoke-free environment.
-An amendment that adds funds to education programs that stress the health risks of smoking.
-An amendment that invests funds in programs that help smokers quit (the funding could easily come from the money saved from medical expenses that smokers would have otherwise used).

No thx

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I'm afraid that may be unreasonable---who knows what will be of our fine region in the future in the first place. We just need to make sure Rocky gets the honor he deserves by having an important planet named after him.

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Certainly!

[bgwah]

VOTING IS OPEN ON THE FOLLOWING!! Please vote aye or nay. Voting ends in one week.

Gasoline Consumer Protection Act
1. All prices for gasoline displayed at gas stations must be rounded up to the nearest cent.
2. If a station is found noncompliant, the company operating the station shall be fined 10% of the earnings at that station during the period of noncompliance.

Regional Motto Bill
1) The regional motto of the Pacific will be "In Rocky we trust" upon the passing of this legislation.

Rocky Dennis Memorial Bill, Part II
1) The face of the great Rocky Dennis shall be carved into Kings Peak, Utah.
2) This carving shall be 31 meters high.
3) This project shall be paid for by the money saved from the Prison Diet Bill.
4) Kings Peak shall be henceforth known as Mount Rockymore.
5) Carving shall begin immediately upon the passing of this bill.

Resolution concerning human colonization of outer space
1) The people of the Pacific Region demand that the first planet to be permanently colonized by human settlers be named after Rocky Dennis.

Renaming of Interstate 5 Bill
1) Interstate 5 shall now be known by the Pacific Government as Rocky Road.

Resolution concerning the Midwestern dictatorship
1) The people of the Pacific Region hereby condemn Midwestern Governor ilikeverin for his undemocratic dictatorship, demand that he resigns, and demand that the Midwest Regional constitution be amended so that it is more democratic.

Smoking Rights Amendment
1) The right of owners of private establishments, such as but not limited to restaurants and bars, to determine whether or not their establishments allow the smoking of tobacco by those of legal age shall not be infringed upon.

[bgwah]

Gasoline Consumer Protection Act - Nay

Regional Motto Bill - Aye

Rocky Dennis Memorial Bill, Part II - Aye

Resolution concerning human colonization of outer space - Aye

Renaming of Interstate 5 Bill - Aye

Resolution concerning the Midwestern dictatorship - Aye

Smoking Rights Amendment - Aye

[bgwah]

The Gasoline Consumer Protection Act has failed 2-3.

The Regional Motto Bill has passed 4-1.
X Governor Bgwah

The Rocky Dennis Memorial Bill, Part II has passed 5-0.
X Governor Bgwah

The Resolution concerning human colonization of outer space has passed 5-0.
X Governor Bgwah

The Renaming of Interstate 5 Bill has passed 4-1.
X Governor Bgwah

The Resolution concerning the Midwestern dictatorship has passed 4-1.
X Governor Bgwah

The Smoking Rights Amendment has passed 4-1.
X Governor Bgwah