Post-Debate Reaction

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I didn't watch. What did Perry do that everybody agrees was so catastrophic? I've never seen so much unanimous agreement on anything on here. Ever.

EDIT: read on CNN. Ok.the man had a brain fart. It happens. I'm the last person who wants to defend Perry, but if the GOP is choosing on the basis of that fary over actual policy positions (and I think Perry's suck), to determine who their candidate is, they're even bigger fools than I thought all along.

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That fact that everybody is drooling over a brain fart (a bad one, granted) rather than the egregious nutterdom that is the policy discussion of a GOP debate tells you everything (ok, not everything) that's wrong with the presentation of American politics.

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And a Perry collapse could be DISASTEROUS for Romney. More than anything, he needs the conservative vote to be split. Iif Perry's support all goes to one consensus "conservative" candidate, Mittens is toast.

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And a Perry collapse could be DISASTEROUS for Romney. More than anything, he needs the conservative vote to be split. Iif Perry's support all goes to one consensus "conservative" candidate, Mittens is toast.

It seems that the bulk of the Dems around here really (along with a few LDS loathing Pubbies) really don't want Mittens to be nominated doesn't it?

Well, uh, yeah, because poll after poll shows he's the only nominee who could beat Obama.

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But seriously, a Perry collapse is an enormous liability for Romney. That's not spin. That's reality. Mittens isn't getting more than 40% of GOP primary vote as long as there is a viable conservative alternative.

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And a Perry collapse could be DISASTEROUS for Romney. More than anything, he needs the conservative vote to be split. Iif Perry's support all goes to one consensus "conservative" candidate, Mittens is toast.

It seems that the bulk of the Dems around here really (along with a few LDS loathing Pubbies) really don't want Mittens to be nominated doesn't it?

Well, uh, yeah, because poll after poll shows he's the only nominee who could beat Obama.

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But seriously, a Perry collapse is an enormous liability for Romney. That's not spin. That's reality. Mittens isn't getting more than 40% of GOP primary vote as long as there is a viable conservative alternative.

That viable ABR is who? Newt "more baggage than JFK's cargo terminal at Xmas" Gingrich? Herman "999" Cain? Any of the white-noisers?

No, Romney is still going to be the nominee.

Romney may well be the nominee. He still has several conservative opponents. The more, the merrier for Mitt. But each one knocked out is a problem mathematically. And the base, who typically makes up voters in a primary, doesn't give a rat's behind about baggage.

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Each and every Pubbie I chat with in real life (including ex governor Pete Wilson with whom I spoke for a few minutes a couple of nights ago) wants to nominate the strongest opponent to Obama. Granted, it is a non random sample.

So why doesn't Romney have a commanding lead in the polls? You've got to get out of your liberal ivory tower and meet some hard working heartland folks

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Each and every Pubbie I chat with in real life (including ex governor Pete Wilson with whom I spoke for a few minutes a couple of nights ago) wants to nominate the strongest opponent to Obama. Granted, it is a non random sample.

So why doesn't Romney have a commanding lead in the polls? You've got to get out of your liberal ivory tower and meet some hard working heartland folks

You are beginning to sound like CARL.    Anyhoo, some are holding back still watching and waiting (and in CA we have a long wait, since the primary is not until June), but that is their Boolean function.

You think you're more representative of GOP primary voters than CARL. I've got news for you. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.

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And yet the common conservative talking point is that the GOP loses when their candidate isn't conservative enough. I've heard a million times that "moderates" like Dole and McCain depress conservative turnout and let the Dems win. I don't buy it either, but that is mainstream GOP logic.