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DabbingSanta
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« on: November 04, 2020, 06:47:59 AM »

Yes, both states are gone going forward. The Republican party is now the party of the white working class, and this won't change regardless of who manages to win today.
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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2020, 06:50:22 AM »

Hispanic gains also suggest Texas might not become a Dem state either. Again, no surprise if you think about the culture.  And states like Nevada are still in play going forward.
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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2020, 10:18:32 AM »

Hot take: this "realignment" is not helping Democrats at all. A 65% win in California doesn't change the fact that once friendly Democratic strongholds in the Midwest are losing population and trending Republican. Ohio, Michigan, the Dakotas, and Wisconsin still have more combined power in the Senate than California despite its population. It's increasingly difficult to paint a rosy picture for Democrats in the Senate going forward.

It's simple. Democrats need to reform their message, or else they're going to keep losing. Vast majority of Americans don't like identity politics. I think the white working class is gone for them, but they can keep making in roads in suburban areas and perhaps try to regain some hispanic support.
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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2020, 10:29:42 AM »

The only reason we are even discussing this is because of the stupid electoral college. It is crazy that democrats have to win by upwards of 5 %-points now to actual win elections. If it wasn't for the electoral college things would look incredibly bleak for republicans now.

Well, until there's reform, that is the system that has to be worked with.  Plus from a constitutional point of view, abolishing the EC seems pretty unlikely.  I expect at some point we will more see states allocate EVs based on Congressional District results, like we do in Nebraska and Maine.  That might result in more contentious gerrymandering battles too! Oh the joys of a republic....
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