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UncleSam
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« on: December 15, 2017, 02:55:14 PM »

Lol those undecided numbers

Probably a toss up in the primary

Vukmir would make this lean D IMO

Nicholson would be more of an unknown quantity. Could be safe D with him or up to leans R, just depends on the campaign he runs and how he answers lingering questions about his candidacy.
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UncleSam
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« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2017, 06:55:40 PM »

Really guys lol? I get that it's very likely to be a decidedly pro-Dem environment, but we are talking about a state that is trending right, is dominated at all levels by the Republican state party, and was won by Donald Trump last year.

I'm not suggesting Rs are favored, but the notion that the minimum loss a Republican could possibly muster here at this point in time is 8% is laughable. The state has trended right, Milwaukee is slowly losing population, and an energized Dane just won't be enough if the union voters stick with Rs, as they have for a decade.

Yes, I think it is likely enough either come back to the Ds or stay home out of disgust at Trump.

No, you can't attack Nicholson for being endorsed by Bannon lol, literally no one cares except people in Madison, who are going to show up in record numbers anyway (and this the Lean D rating).

Where Nicholson is weak is on telling the truth and consistency. He was a prominent national democrat 20 years ago, blatantly lied about who he voted for in the past, and has flip-flopped on numerous issues. If Baldwin can hammer him for being untrustworthy then she'll have an easy re-election campaign, and this will actually shift to Likely or Safe D.

If those attacks don't stick, however, you won't see a blowout against a typical conservative in Wisconsin in 2018. I think Dane turnout will be high enough to carry Baldwin to victory in the end, but people forget that turnout in Dane was actually really high in 2016 too. Milwaukee was down, but there's fewer people in Milwaukee now than there were, and there will be even fewer come November 2018 barring a turnaround.

Keep dreaming that the right-trending Midwest is safe D territory in a favorable environment. It isnt, and I'm willing to bet that even while taking the house at least one of Wisconsin, Michigan, or Pennsylvania will end up being quite close statewide for Ds.

Show me a poll of Baldwin leading any of Vukmir, Nicholson, or Generic R by double digits or high singles and I'll call this Likely D. Until then, it's Lean.
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UncleSam
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« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2017, 07:17:26 PM »

^Here you go.

Also, Nicholson isn't really a good fit for rural WI, while Baldwin's economic populism probably plays very well there. Like you said, turnout in Dane and Milwaukee will likely be through the roof, so the WOW counties won't be enough to save Republicans running statewide, especially with Trump in the White House. I agree that WI is trending Republican, but it's not as if that precludes the possibility of Democrats having a good year there every so often (think of VA in 2009 and 2010).
I never said it precludes the possibility. Indeed, Democrats are clearly favored here, as I said. Leans is not a marginal advantage.

The notion they are overwhelming favorites here, however, is silly.

Not quite sure I get your link, as I don't see any polls listed there yet nor do I recall any posted here. Are you just linking that so we can see polls as they roll in, with some of them (presumably, in others' opinions) indicating large Baldwin leads?
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