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Tekken_Guy
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« on: November 20, 2023, 09:26:23 PM »

If he wins we'll get four years of him behaving like a wannabe tinpot dictator, stacking federal agencies with conservative activists and cronies, running his DOJ like Ken Paxton, being reckless with foreign policy, and possibly crashing the economy. See pre-10/7 Netanyahu. Expect the next four years to be a blue tsunami that makes his first term look like a ripple by comparison. He anoints his VP or one of his kids as his successor in 2028, who get blown out 2008-style.

If he loses, he'll spend the rest of his career ranting about how he was robbed again.
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« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2023, 12:24:54 AM »

Democrats win with 400+ EVs in 2028 with House majorities larger than Obama. Idk how the GOP will change after that, but they probably will.

Yeah for once we agree, its interesting but you can totally see how the loser of 2024 is really the long-term winner.

If Biden wins- GOP probably retakes House in 2026 midterm, Collins retains seat in Maine (if she runs), Dems have a hard time in NC, AK getting Cooper, Peltola in and Kemp can beat Ossoff in GA.

2028 Dems then have a major dilemma with Harris as frontrunner (not to mention a recession) and her campaign calling everyone who doesn't support her a racist. Despite being pro-Israel herself, the people she hires on her campaign will likely be garbage and cause problems on this issue judging by her history. Youngkin could easily beat Harris with 350+ electoral votes and a popular vote win. The center-right revives while the identity left crumbles. It begins a downward spiral where the Dems retreat to the AOC wing for the next decade.

If Trump wins- Dems very likely can get 240+ maybe even 250 in the House, especially if Trump tries using the FDA to ban mailing of abortion pills. In Senate, if 2024 GOP is only at 52-48 with WV/OH/MT, 2026 and 2028 could be downright ugly. GA is uncompetitive, Dems flip NC, AK with Cooper and Peltola and neither is particularly close. Texas also might fall in the unpopular Trump midterm scenario.

2028 is not much better for GOP, Dems hold all 2022 seats and gain at least NC, WI with FL/OH/IA in outer limits depending on how bad things get for GOP.

Dems might have one of Whitmer/Shapiro or Moore at the top of the ticket and GOP will be saddled with Trump's crony VP. A Democratic majority here would be able to accomplish a lot with 54+ Senate seats and the right would be discredited.

I highly doubt Cooper, Peltola, or Kemp run for Senate in 2026 if their party’s president wins in 2024. I’m skeptical any of the three run at all. Peltola will probably wait for Murkowski to retire, Kemp may want to run for president more, and Cooper’s getting up there in age.
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« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2023, 12:09:59 PM »

Democrats win with 400+ EVs in 2028 with House majorities larger than Obama. Idk how the GOP will change after that, but they probably will.

Yeah for once we agree, its interesting but you can totally see how the loser of 2024 is really the long-term winner.

If Biden wins- GOP probably retakes House in 2026 midterm, Collins retains seat in Maine (if she runs), Dems have a hard time in NC, AK getting Cooper, Peltola in and Kemp can beat Ossoff in GA.

2028 Dems then have a major dilemma with Harris as frontrunner (not to mention a recession) and her campaign calling everyone who doesn't support her a racist. Despite being pro-Israel herself, the people she hires on her campaign will likely be garbage and cause problems on this issue judging by her history. Youngkin could easily beat Harris with 350+ electoral votes and a popular vote win. The center-right revives while the identity left crumbles. It begins a downward spiral where the Dems retreat to the AOC wing for the next decade.

If Trump wins- Dems very likely can get 240+ maybe even 250 in the House, especially if Trump tries using the FDA to ban mailing of abortion pills. In Senate, if 2024 GOP is only at 52-48 with WV/OH/MT, 2026 and 2028 could be downright ugly. GA is uncompetitive, Dems flip NC, AK with Cooper and Peltola and neither is particularly close. Texas also might fall in the unpopular Trump midterm scenario.

2028 is not much better for GOP, Dems hold all 2022 seats and gain at least NC, WI with FL/OH/IA in outer limits depending on how bad things get for GOP.

Dems might have one of Whitmer/Shapiro or Moore at the top of the ticket and GOP will be saddled with Trump's crony VP. A Democratic majority here would be able to accomplish a lot with 54+ Senate seats and the right would be discredited.

I highly doubt Cooper, Peltola, or Kemp run for Senate in 2026 if their party’s president wins in 2024. I’m skeptical any of the three run at all. Peltola will probably wait for Murkowski to retire, Kemp may want to run for president more, and Cooper’s getting up there in age.

I could see Murkowski caucusing with the Dems if Trump is once again POTUS. Agree that Cooper, Peltola more likely to run in a Trump midterm and NC Dems might have Jeff Jackson as another strong option.

If Biden wins, Harris is going to be a major problem for them in 2028.

Jackson is likely the guy for the Budd seat, not the Tillis one. Wiley Nickel is another option and I think he might be the big name to watch if Cooper passes on a run in ‘26.
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