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« on: September 22, 2023, 03:16:48 PM »
Quote from: Zedonathin2020 on September 22, 2023, 03:13:32 PM
Andy Kim (who probably is salivating over the news) is the first major Democrat to call for Menendez’s resignation

https://twitter.com/wildstein/status/1705308842542743879

in my best Patrick Warburton voice: "Oh yeah. It's all coming together."


this comes after:
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« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2023, 04:07:34 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2023, 04:40:44 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2023, 05:48:22 PM »
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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2023, 11:07:55 AM »
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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2023, 12:35:11 PM »
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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2023, 05:01:20 PM »
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« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2023, 05:19:04 PM »
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« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2023, 08:09:33 PM »
Quote from: Progressive Pessimist on September 24, 2023, 05:35:23 PM
Quote from: Senator Incitatus on September 24, 2023, 12:28:57 PM
Christie running would be a lot like that time Jim Gilmore ran for Senate.

Christie would probably lose to Menendez.

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« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2024, 06:05:11 PM »

Team Suozzi meming on her from across the rivers:
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« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2024, 11:28:00 PM »
Quote from: Oryxslayer on February 05, 2024, 11:46:33 PM
https://twitter.com/pocryphal/status/1754678379301798236

This comes as the Monmouth Dems are set to m24 hoeet in the coming days and given an endorsement and line. The expectation right now has been that Kim is the slight favorite to get that, as he represents part of the region,  and stuff like this can't help Murphy.

Funny extract from that article as well, given what happened publicly at the University Dems conference. Real big "accusation but actually confession" vibes:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GFnouSBXoAABv-S?format=jpg


Quote from: https://newjerseyglobe.com/congress/bradley-beach-dem-chair-will-in-fact-endorse-tammy-murphy-for-senate/
"I do endorse Tammy Murphy in this race," Lozowick told the New Jersey Globe. "I had held up my endorsement, because I was really trying to not influence any county committee[members] in one way or the other. I wanted to let them do whatever they wanted to do."

That seems to contradict what Lozowick had said yesterday; he had said that he wasn't sure how he ended up on Murphy's endorsement list, and that he was going into Saturday's Monmouth County Democratic convention as a genuinely undecided vote.

"I'm absolutely neutral," he said less than 24 hours ago. "In fact, when I go in to vote on Saturday, I'm not sure who I'm going to vote for."

Lozowick's change of heart appears to have been prompted by lobbying from an old friend: Somerset County Democratic chair and statewide Democratic vice-chair Peg Schaffer, whom Lozowick has known for decades. Schaffer, the former borough attorney in Bradley Beach, is a staunch Tammy Murphy supporter and a longtime member of Gov. Phil Murphy's inner orbit.

"Steve told me over a month ago he was supporting the First Lady," Schaffer said of Lozowick. "I was surprised to read the article [in which he said he was neutral], which is what prompted me to call him."

Lozowick was one of four endorsers from yesterday's list who said afterwards that they had not made any endorsement. Brielle Democratic municipal chair Kevin Starkey told the New Jersey Globe he had not discussed any endorsement with the Murphy campaign, while Ocean Township Mayor John Napolitani and Asbury Park Councilwoman Angela Ahbez-Anderson both said on Facebook that they were remaining neutral in the race, though Ahbez-Anderson later took her post down.
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« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2024, 02:29:23 PM »
Quote from: Born to Slay. Forced to Work. on February 10, 2024, 02:20:53 PM
Quote from: Oryxslayer on February 10, 2024, 02:10:12 PM
Vote was apparently not that close, 265 to 181.

Also Herb Conoway got the endorsement in NJ-03 by a similarly wide margin,  notable since a different and unrelated lady Murphy could be the frontrunner.

Schedule on for future conventions,  ones on the right seem to be the closed insider variety all but guaranteed to go to Murphy like Passaic earlier. These open conventions,  even outside of Kims backyard, may get more contested since Kim won quite handily:

https://twitter.com/ECaliberSeven/status/1756386462814109767

What’s the different columns mean?
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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2024, 08:53:29 AM »
Quote from: CityofSinners on February 23, 2024, 02:17:42 PM
https://twitter.com/jay_lass/status/1761063882213466603

Entirely avoidable mistake by Murphy that will cost her. Taking a picture with any Trump when you are thinking about running in a dem primary is just stupid.
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« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2024, 08:12:02 PM »
Quote from: Tekken_Guy on February 25, 2024, 07:03:20 PM
Quote from: Oryxslayer on February 25, 2024, 06:38:34 PM
Quote from: Landslide Lyndon on February 25, 2024, 05:18:16 PM
Was Kim's landslide expected or was Murphy supposed to put up more of a fight?

The result was expected, after Monmouth set expectations for Andy. As stated above Murphy had supporters in the party here, but Hunterdon is literally ground zero for anti-Machine Democrats. It was Menendez's worst county in the 2018 primary. And even if she won, the prize would be of questionable value - compared to the preceding counties - since the county is small and the Democrat voters lack any loyalty to their leaders.

As a reminder for everyone, here's the schedule from a while back.  

https://twitter.com/ECaliberSeven/status/1756386462814109767

Before Super Tuesday we have Sussex and Warren. Literally the smallest counties in the state when it comes to Dem voters, both opposed Menendez in 2018, and one doesn't even do the county line system. Don't expect Murphy to even bother there.

Then there is Bergen which is not like everything that has been track so far. Much more insider. And yet Andy is still contesting it despite machine politician endorsements for Murphy, suggesting his campaign suspects there is a chance of victory.

I think Kim has a real chance in Bergen. It’s a very well-educated county and contains a noticeable Korean-American population.

(since confirmed by you ITT to be a secret ballot):
Quote from: Oryxslayer on February 23, 2024, 09:47:52 AM
But the [Hunterdon County] convention will be a good barometer of Kim's expected strength in the northern suburbs and places further to come like....

Bergen! As noted this is a insider convention, but the early March convention will itself be another test if Murphy can hold her ground.

https://twitter.com/ECaliberSeven/status/1760880602616602899


& also this from yesterday:

Quote from: https://www.insidernj.com/kim-defeats-murphy-burlington-county/
Murphy did land Passaic County on the same day she lost Monmouth, but insiders note that she racked her win on a hand vote by municipal chairs, not a secret ballot with all eligible county party committee members participating. Bergen at this precise moment looks like the most massive question mark for March, very conceivably a Waterloo situation for Murphy if she strikes out against her surging nemesis in the behemothic North Jersey county.
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« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2024, 09:31:43 PM »
« Edited: February 26, 2024, 03:15:29 PM by brucejoel99 »
Quote from: politicallefty on February 25, 2024, 08:23:44 PM
I don't really have anything against Tammy Murphy herself, but using corrupt antiquated mechanisms to distort the playing field is pretty awful. If she felt she was the best candidate, she should have disavowed the machine elements and called for a fair process. Andy Kim is awesome though. I see so many places offer the worst of America, but sending Andy Kim to the Senate offers some of the very best.

I don't even know exactly what this county line thing is (apart from a strange-looking ballot), but it needs to be abolished or struck down.

There's federal litigation challenging the Line rn: Conforti v. Hanlon, filed by several losing 2020 primary candidates & the NJWFP, survived the motion to dismiss & remains pending in discovery now nearly 44 months after it was initially filed, but unfortunately isn't on-track for trial in Judge Quraishi's courtroom anytime soon, let alone by this year's Jun. 4th primary.
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« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2024, 01:24:09 PM »
100% my thoughts exactly in hindsight atp:


Can't believe I ever wanted Phil! ANDY FTW!!
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« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2024, 01:37:43 PM »
Quote from: Tekken_Guy on February 26, 2024, 01:29:38 PM
If the county line system collapses that is not only the end for Phil and Tammy Murphy. People like Gottheimer and Sherrill who are staunch machine allies could find themselves in hot water.

What's really ironic rn is Sue Altman being a Tammy-endorsing Line candidate after filing the aforementioned lawsuit that's challenging the Line's very existence. We love game-players!
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« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2024, 02:37:46 PM »
Speaking of lawsuits!
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« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2024, 03:16:01 PM »
Quote from: Atlas Force on February 26, 2024, 03:10:09 PM
Quote from: brucejoel99 on February 25, 2024, 09:31:43 PM
Quote from: politicallefty on February 25, 2024, 08:23:44 PM
I don't really have anything against Tammy Murphy herself, but using corrupt antiquated mechanisms to distort the playing field is pretty awful. If she felt she was the best candidate, she should have disavowed the machine elements and called for a fair process. Andy Kim is awesome though. I see so many places offer the worst of America, but sending Andy Kim to the Senate offers some of the very best.

I don't even know exactly what this county line thing is (apart from a strange-looking ballot), but it needs to be abolished or struck down.

There's federal litigation challenging the Line rn: Conforti v. Hanlon, filed by several losing 2020 primary candidates & the NJWFP, survived the motion to dismiss & remains pending in discovery now nearly 44 months after it was initially filed, but unfortunately isn't on-track for trial in Judge Quraishi's courtroom anytime soon, let alone by this year's Jun. 4th primary.

First link is broken

Fixed, thx!
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« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2024, 07:19:39 PM »

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« Reply #20 on: February 29, 2024, 05:51:11 PM »
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« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2024, 01:08:46 PM »

also, I didn't catch these 'til just now:
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« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2024, 02:46:40 PM »
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« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2024, 09:49:36 PM »
Quote from: Oryxslayer on March 01, 2024, 03:40:25 PM
Quote from: President Johnson on March 01, 2024, 03:29:42 PM
Quote from: brucejoel99 on March 01, 2024, 02:46:40 PM


Lmao, what did she do?

Quote from: Oryxslayer on February 28, 2024, 12:11:24 PM




Uhhh...what? Good campaigns don't let this happen.

And in this case it's not a sign of dropping out, cause Tammy was at a big fundraiser and launched a new ad campaign yesterday.

Given what happened earlier, I would not be surprised if the campaign themselves called for this after they lost control somehow.

They're now blaming Kim's campaign for her suspension lol


& we get content out of this:
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« Reply #24 on: March 02, 2024, 12:30:26 AM »
2nd audio leak of the campaign! Last time was Tammy's campaign threatening NJ College Dems, this time it's Bergen chair Paul Juliano introducing Tammy at last Sunday's event:

Quote from: Bergen County Democratic Chair Paul Juliano introducing Tammy Murphy, February 25th, 2024
[...?] line, was elected by 2,600 votes on all of the Southern lines. He enjoyed the lines down in Camden County when they suited him, but now the Line is no good!? Because he's thinking that he's not gonna get the Line, but he's competing for all the Lines, by the way, in every county, so I wanna say that. Please join me as we welcome the next United States Senator from the great state of New Jersey, Tammy Murphy!
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