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brucejoel99
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« on: March 15, 2021, 02:10:04 PM »

Would be glad to see him as a candidate, but he’d have no chance of beating Paul (nor would any Democrat, though.)

Yeah, I love Booker & I'll gladly support him again, but this is gonna be quite the uphill battle, to say the least.
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brucejoel99
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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2021, 11:16:20 AM »

Booker won't win but would do better than McGrift. I say go for it. We tried the centrist Dem strategy of running Republicans to  beat Republicans and it doesn't work, not unless the math has genuinely turned to favor Democrats (i.e. Colorado) in which case a more progressive candidate could have won anyway.

This Hick heresy will not be tolerated, prepare to die.
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brucejoel99
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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2021, 12:20:45 PM »

Safe R -> Likely R just without the McGrath amounts of money contesting the race.

Stop. Unless you're being sarcastic, this race is Safe R, period.

Oh I don't think there's any conceivable scenario in which Rand loses, but I think Booker could do better than McGrath for sure and possibly better than Grimes in '14/Gray in '16 (40-42%) but his ceiling probably no higher than maybe 44% at best.

Booker would certainly get less than 40%.

If democrats nominate him I could see Paul getting a larger margin of victory than any other republican senatorial candidate got over the past 2 decades.

So true
Pragmatic Moderate Obama-Lunsford-Conway-Obama-Grimes-Clinton-Gray-Biden-McGrath voters don't like spooky scary socialists like Charles Booker!

Do you understand that Obama/Lunsford/Conway/Obama/Grimes/Clinton/Gray/Biden/McGrath voters represent at the best 1/3 of the KY electorate ?

Do you understand "whoosh"?
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brucejoel99
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E: -3.48, S: -3.30

« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2021, 02:18:11 PM »

Safe R -> Likely R just without the McGrath amounts of money contesting the race.

Stop. Unless you're being sarcastic, this race is Safe R, period.

Oh I don't think there's any conceivable scenario in which Rand loses, but I think Booker could do better than McGrath for sure and possibly better than Grimes in '14/Gray in '16 (40-42%) but his ceiling probably no higher than maybe 44% at best.

Booker would certainly get less than 40%.

If democrats nominate him I could see Paul getting a larger margin of victory than any other republican senatorial candidate got over the past 2 decades.

So true
Pragmatic Moderate Obama-Lunsford-Conway-Obama-Grimes-Clinton-Gray-Biden-McGrath voters don't like spooky scary socialists like Charles Booker!

Do you understand that Obama/Lunsford/Conway/Obama/Grimes/Clinton/Gray/Biden/McGrath voters represent at the best 1/3 of the KY electorate ?

Do you understand "whoosh"?

No, what does it mean ?

It represents the sound of the wind that's produced by a joke going wayyy over one's head at practically breakneck speed (metaphorically, of course), with the joke that went over your head in this instance being that "Pragmatic Moderate Obama-Lunsford-Conway-Obama-Grimes-Clinton-Gray-Biden-McGrath voters [who] don't like spooky scary socialists like Charles Booker" is just a parody of every such similar Atlas meme & not a particular demographic that KaiserDave was actually attempting to bring attention to as your earlier reply to him seemed to imply that you believed it was.
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brucejoel99
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« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2021, 01:06:02 AM »

Of course, there's some nuance that Atlas is conveniently forgetting here (& I say "conveniently" because Atlas' general consensus a year ago was pretty solidly behind Booker in his campaign against McGrath for the nomination, & certainly not painting both of them as being grifters), & that is that McGrath was never really all that chummy with the KY Democratic establishment to begin with, as opposed to Booker, who'd basically managed to lock up all of its support last year despite some major ideological differences therein (i.e., more liberal urbanites & more moderate - if not conservadem - folks in Appalachia). Remember: Booker is a veteran of the KY House, whereas McGrath isn't an elected official & basically just got lucky in popping up onto the scene from out of nowhere with Schumer's support after having contested a surprisingly marginal House seat back in the Blue Wave of 2018. In that light, has it occurred to anybody that the KY Democratic establishment which actually knows Booker was probably confident that Booker wouldn't be a grift a-la McGrath but would actually put any funds which he raises to the good use of the KY Democratic Party by using it to help build their capacities to mobilize voters, recruit candidates, train activists, provide campaign services, & raise funds. Y'know: party-building, that thing that very lonely minority-status parties such as the KY Democratic Party are desperately in a perpetual need for.

Seriously, if you think that Booker is just here to be a giant grift like McGrath, then you just haven't been paying attention.
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brucejoel99
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« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2021, 08:03:17 AM »


One of the best candidates in any state in the country. He deserves to be in the US Senate and I'm going to do what I can to try and help him win. It's an uphill battle but I believe in this man. I hope Kentucky will too!

Ron Howard narration: "They won't."
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