How can Trump be seen as 'tough on crime' when he's vouching to release Jan 6 criminals on day 1? (user search)
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Hindsight was 2020
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« on: March 17, 2024, 10:27:54 AM »

Because “tough on crime” is about the aesthetic of a reactionary president letting cops profile and beat up minorities not actual enforcement of the law
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« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2024, 05:51:52 PM »

January 6
vs
open borders, no cash bail, and George Soros DAs etc

Yes — Democrats really have a lane in the “tough on crime” argument

Are January 6 criminals not real criminals? That argument is asinine. Trump is literally saying "let's let a thousand criminals out on the street on day 1" - if you honestly believe that is comparable to any of what you mentioned then you're completely dense

Of course they're real criminals, but the actions of the January 6th rioters don't affect people's day to day lives in the way that the threat of murders and carjackings do.

Ah so now the Jan 6 criminals are less of a threat than "other" criminals, got it.

Literally yes? If I was walking down the street and I walked past a 50-year-old who'd stormed the Capitol on January 6th vs. a 20-year-old gang member, I know which one I'd be more scared of.
The J6 guys crimes were involving trying to end our 300 year democracy how the hell does that not impact your daily life if they were successful?
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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2024, 06:55:36 PM »

Is this the best bait the left is capable of?

You are comparing convicted drug dealers and murderers to people who were standing in a building they weren't allowed to.

Absolutely f-ck off. You do not get to whitewash what happened that day, and frame it as a rally that just got a little out of hand.

They tried to kill members of Congress, overturn the election, and overthrow the government.

Anyone who set foot in the Capitol that day, without permission, should all be in prison for life.
You're confusing this with 9/11, which I'm sure you had a hand in. Trump said there were people on the rooftops celebrating in Newark, and we all know you were one of them!
This snarky reply makes no sense seeing as what Ferguson said is both unobjectionably correct and also something you legitimately wanted to happen in real time
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Hindsight was 2020
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« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2024, 07:11:42 PM »

Is this the best bait the left is capable of?

You are comparing convicted drug dealers and murderers to people who were standing in a building they weren't allowed to.

Absolutely f-ck off. You do not get to whitewash what happened that day, and frame it as a rally that just got a little out of hand.

They tried to kill members of Congress, overturn the election, and overthrow the government.

Anyone who set foot in the Capitol that day, without permission, should all be in prison for life.
You're confusing this with 9/11, which I'm sure you had a hand in. Trump said there were people on the rooftops celebrating in Newark, and we all know you were one of them!
This snarky reply makes no sense seeing as what Ferguson said is both unobjectionably correct and also something you legitimately wanted to happen in real time
If I wanted some kind of coup to succeed on January 6th, it'd have been nice then to know what the end game was. I still don't get what the end game was, other than to yell "rabble rabble rabble!" and raise a lot of hell.

"We" (I wasn't there, but whatever) chased Mike Pence home. Ok. Then what? How would Trump have managed to hold on from there? What was the next step? If you're going to accuse people of participating in a coup, you ought to, you know, have a clearly defined event to call a coup.
To prevent the certification of the election so then state legislatures would send new slant of electors to award stays to Trump so he could stay in office. Like is this a bad faith routine or are you legitimately forgetting that they spelled out weeks and even months in advance what the idea was
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« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2024, 07:18:15 PM »

Is this the best bait the left is capable of?

You are comparing convicted drug dealers and murderers to people who were standing in a building they weren't allowed to.

Absolutely f-ck off. You do not get to whitewash what happened that day, and frame it as a rally that just got a little out of hand.

They tried to kill members of Congress, overturn the election, and overthrow the government.

Anyone who set foot in the Capitol that day, without permission, should all be in prison for life.
You're confusing this with 9/11, which I'm sure you had a hand in. Trump said there were people on the rooftops celebrating in Newark, and we all know you were one of them!
This snarky reply makes no sense seeing as what Ferguson said is both unobjectionably correct and also something you legitimately wanted to happen in real time
If I wanted some kind of coup to succeed on January 6th, it'd have been nice then to know what the end game was. I still don't get what the end game was, other than to yell "rabble rabble rabble!" and raise a lot of hell.

"We" (I wasn't there, but whatever) chased Mike Pence home. Ok. Then what? How would Trump have managed to hold on from there? What was the next step? If you're going to accuse people of participating in a coup, you ought to, you know, have a clearly defined event to call a coup.
To prevent the certification of the election so then state legislatures would send new slant of electors to award stays to Trump so he could stay in office. Like is this a bad faith routine or are you legitimately forgetting that they spelled out weeks and even months in advance what the idea was
That would require evidence of fraud. Which you have consistently said there was none of.
They managed to convince the entire Republicans base and posters like Fuzzy of fraud without evidence doubt they would care about convincing anyone else if J6 was successful
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