Trans controvesy engulfs the NYT

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I’ve been seeing people dunk on Jeremy Peters for his “we are journalists not activists” line due to his infamous Charlottesville article were he treated a Neo-Nazi participant as a local observer

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Btw not to shock anyone but the whistleblower that Alben was hung up on and set off the controversy in the OP is getting pushback from patients
https://mobile.twitter.com/ryanlcooper/status/1628780479116705792
https://mobile.twitter.com/ryanlcooper/status/1628810995329007616

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Different patients may have been handled differently by different care givers at different points in time under different policies. For example, maybe the policies changed after Reed made complaints internally, and was called on the carpet for it, and then sucked it up, least she be fired. Maybe this, maybe that.

One assumes that in any investigation, all the patient files will be reviewed. Testimonials to the press by various individuals is no substitute for that, or on what a reasoned judgement can be made.

Be patient.

One of the people who is pushing back was someone Reed was a caseworker on though

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Fair enough. What would Reed's motive be for making it all up however? Or is she the crazy one?

What stands out is the more identical story and whistleblower testimony about Tavistock appearing in the Times around the same time. She is not the only person on earth making these sorts of charges. Almost every country with a major gender clinic seems to be producing whistleblowers who found similar stuff, and the Cass report/internal reports in Sweden seem to have corroborated enough of the concerns to shutdown the clinics in question.

Some of the problems are likely innate to the nature of the treatment. As is evident in this thread or discourse, even within Trans circles Trandsmedicalists and the more activist elements who have largely won power struggles within WPATH against figures like Marci Bowers have very different views of what the purpose of this entire field is. Is it to actually allow an individual to change gender? In which case it is a last resort for those with a mental condition, and embarking on it has to be weighed against the reality that the medical technology is limited, and that results will vary. In which case it is the duty of carers to exhaust all other options first, and  actively discourage those who for physical or genetic reasons are likely to get poor results from embarking on treatment?

Or is the treatment itself a solution? In which case efforts to discourage are gatekeeping and conversion therapy. Furthermore, if the concern is depression, then providing that sort of counseling might be "harmful." So in that sense lying to prospective patients is a form of treatment.

I suspect that is where a lot of the Whistleblowers deviate. Others at the clinics feel that in effect telling patients "you will never actually be a man/woman" is a transphobic dog whistle, while some of the staff feel it is a statement of medical fact.

Part of the problem with these threads and the "research" being posted is that very different questions are being asked.

Nothing to add but just wanted to say I really appreciate your input in any threads about The Discourse. You are very knowledgeable but also not in either camp of extremes. Both Matt Walsh and Lia Thomas could learn a lot from you.

I feel part of the discourse is harmed by the fact people like you put someone like Lia Thomas on some type of equal footing with Matt Walsh. Like seriously trying to participate in women swimming is as bad as this https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=540113.0