Trump commutes Roger Stone sentence

[Hindsight was 2020]

Pardons need not be revisited.  The possibility of a Pardon is the ONLY hope for those imprisoned or facing execution who are actually innocent.  Actual innocence is not a ground for appeal, and it is often not used to grant a new trial if the defendant entered a "best interest" plea to, say, avoid the Death Penalty, settle for 25 years rather than 70 years, etc.

I'm fine with commutation of this sentence.  Stone deserves a new trial due to bias issues with the jury foreperson, but one isn't forthcoming due to the bias of an activist Obama appointee.  We can't all be Maximum John Sirica, a conservative Republican who stuck it to Watergate defendants, now can we?

There's a difference between a case a POTUS has absolutely no connection to, and what happened here. This was clearly a pardon done with corrupt intent -- to show Stone, and any past or future collaborator, that there are rewards for taking one for the President. And that is a message that will reverberate throughout the future, enabling corruption in Republican and Democratic administrations yet to come. This will have to be rectified if America is to continue to be a country governed by laws.

Honestly, I'm baffled that people here think this is OK, that this is just the way it is, and that an earnest attempt to undergird our fundamental laws and values is just a "waste" of "political capital". You guys are a bunch of jokers. Seriously, its embarrassing.

You’re new here. Give it time and both Fuzzy and Sanchez will show you how low their political hackery can get

[Hindsight was 2020]

Remember when you guys were celebrating the fact that he’d die in prison? Who’s laughing now?

This is why we can't have nice things. Because all you cultists care about is trolling Democrats, consequences for the country be damned.

Our democracy isn't going to survive much longer if this attitude is allowed to continue.

Are you actually serious? Do you not see what’s going on across the country right now?

That our president is a crook who is laying waste to our democratic norms and is being encouraged by people like you who seem to be more preoccupied with trolling and weird culture war fetish’s?

[Hindsight was 2020]

"When Atlas Talk Elections sends its posters, they’re not sending their best.  They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of s---posts to their credit, and they’re bringing those s---posts with them. They’re bringing trolls. They’re bringing posts devoid of any effort. They’re gaslighters. And some, I assume, are good people."

Wow! A shocking moment of self-reflection by fuzzy.
I'm impressed.

I'm one of the good people.  You're not, quite frankly, but there are other niches in my post that you can fit in.

No, you are not. Far from it, even.

Opinions vary.

The body of my posting hasn't been confined to ad hominem attacks on other posters.  The longer you're here, you'll understand that Landslide Lyndon can't say that.

Check back with me when you attain the lofty designation of "Concerned Citzen".

No you just go crying to the mod forum everyday about any criticism you receive

[Hindsight was 2020]

"When Atlas Talk Elections sends its posters, they’re not sending their best.  They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of s---posts to their credit, and they’re bringing those s---posts with them. They’re bringing trolls. They’re bringing posts devoid of any effort. They’re gaslighters. And some, I assume, are good people."

Wow! A shocking moment of self-reflection by fuzzy.
I'm impressed.

I'm one of the good people.  You're not, quite frankly, but there are other niches in my post that you can fit in.

No, you are not. Far from it, even.

Opinions vary.

The body of my posting hasn't been confined to ad hominem attacks on other posters.  The longer you're here, you'll understand that Landslide Lyndon can't say that.

Check back with me when you attain the lofty designation of "Concerned Citizen".

No you just go crying to the mod forum everyday about any criticism you receive

Only the criticism that crosses over into ad hominem attacks and libel, both of which are a violation of the ToS.

That you can't attack me without violating the ToS is a testimony to your lack of arguing skills.

I don't report people for criticizing me.  I do report people for personally attacking me and libeling me, as you have.

Actually of all my deleted posts none are related to you so the mods disagree that my criticisms of you violate the TOS. If you want a more political debate the problem becomes that your positions on Trump get so cartoonishly partisan that it’s hard to tell if you’re even engaging in good faith or not.

Take for example the topic of this thread. This argument of yours that you’re okay with Trump commuting Stones’ sentence because BLM has destroyed the concept of “rule of law” as a serious issue is ludicrous. The riots started in May yet Trump has been pulling crap like this for 3 years now and you’ve defended it every single time. There was no riots when he fired Comey but you were okay with that. No riots when he was caught illegally paying hush money to a mistress but you defended him then. There were no riots during Ukrainegate and not only did you defend him then but you also cheered on him retaliating against people who testified against him. You’ve been defending Trump’s assault on the rule of law from the start so to suggest you only don’t care now because of BLM is absurd