AZ may require hospitals to check status of immigrants.......

[Torie]

If illegal, do you just roll the gurney out of the hospital, and dump the patient on skid row, or what? That actually happened per a news story in LA once - sort of. A hospital found out that a patient had no insurance and was broke, so they "released" the patient too early, and drove the patient to skid row, and shoved him out the door - in a wheel chair. That action was not well received - at all. Lawsuits of course ensued.  Who knew?

Or do you care for patient, and when it is appropriate to release, release the patient in the ICE, who puts the guy on a bus down to TJ?  What is going on in the minds of the AZ legislature one wonders.

[Torie]

Guys, it is just wrong to deny medical care, at least for something serious, to persons, legal or not, who need it (subject to the same rationing regime as everyone else who can't pay would be subject to). Sorry. Same with denying secondary education to minors who are illegal - that's wrong too. How one could live with one's conscience doing anything else escapes me - it really does.

[Torie]

Catholics aren't Christians. Is that Oklahoma logic there?

You'd be surprised how many people consider the two completely different.

This is the first time I have ever been aware of this (particularly the bit that some Catholics don't consider themselves Christians). I thought only Mormon's were exiled by many from the Christian community.

What oh what is this about? Perhaps something should be put up on the religion thread.

Do you one of the main reasons I enjoy life so much? I learn something every day! I mean that.

[Torie]

Catholics aren't Christians. Is that Oklahoma logic there?

You'd be surprised how many people consider the two completely different.

Are those the same people that are likely to identify themselves as "American" in the Census?

No, those tend to be folks from Sam Spade's clan - the Scotch-Irish - concentrated in the South and Appalachia but elsewhere as well - the folks who were encouraged to come to America with their guns to head out to the frontier and "pacify" the place from the Native Americans.  And today, I would bet you dollars to donuts that a disproportionate percentage of our military are Scotch Irish. They tend to still like guns.

[Torie]

If illegal, do you just roll the gurney out of the hospital, and dump the patient on skid row, or what? That actually happened per a news story in LA once - sort of. A hospital found out that a patient had no insurance and was broke, so they "released" the patient too early, and drove the patient to skid row, and shoved him out the door - in a wheel chair. That action was not well received - at all. Lawsuits of course ensued.  Who knew?

Or do you care for patient, and when it is appropriate to release, release the patient in the ICE, who puts the guy on a bus down to TJ?  What is going on in the minds of the AZ legislature one wonders.

Why don't you pay for the illegal aliens?

You love illegal aliens, as long as some-one else pays for their costs.

I pay taxes buddy.

[Torie]

Angus I infer believes that a goal of improving education, particularly for those who are so poorly served by it now, generally the least among us, effectively truncating and circumscribing at once both equal opportunity and our nation's future vitality, might well be viewed as a considerably higher priority than extending some longevity statistic by a year or two (assuming that the dubious claim that changing our health care system, as opposed to health habits of our citizenry, has really much relevance at all).  You know what? I agree!

[Torie]

Sam posted it. Otherwise, I would not have revealed it.

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Carl, rumor has it that CA has its own share of illegals. By the way, I favor making E verify mandatory. Have a nice day.