OK, what happened in Maryland???

[Calthrina950]

This is a old thread, but it's hilarious to read many of the hysterical responses on this in hindsight, given how Hogan has consistently been among the nation's most popular Governors and has governed as a moderate pragmatist. Reading this, you'd think Hogan was a fire-breathing, extremist demagogue.

[Calthrina950]

This is a old thread, but it's hilarious to read many of the hysterical responses on this in hindsight, given how Hogan has consistently been among the nation's most popular Governors and has governed as a moderate pragmatist. Reading this, you'd think Hogan was a fire-breathing, extremist demagogue.

Also how everyone was convinced he'd be gone after one term like Bob Ehrlich. He is very underrated, and I can't wait to go work on his presidential campaign in 2024.

I'm skeptical that Hogan can win the Republican nomination, given the direction in which the Party's electorate has turned, but I certainly wouldn't have an issue voting for him, if he made it that far. But then again, four years is an eternity in politics, so we'll see what happens. His reelection in 2018 was very impressive, given the "wave" environment for Democrats in urban and suburban America, of which Maryland is so heavily a part.

[Calthrina950]

This is a old thread, but it's hilarious to read many of the hysterical responses on this in hindsight, given how Hogan has consistently been among the nation's most popular Governors and has governed as a moderate pragmatist. Reading this, you'd think Hogan was a fire-breathing, extremist demagogue.

He is absolutely a demagogue. A smart and sophisticated one, but a demagogue. www.baltimoresun.com/citypaper/bcpnews-boss-hg-larry-hogan-has-baltimore-right-where-he-wants-it-20150707-story.html

I don't understand the point that you're trying to make here. Are you saying that Hogan's infrastructure policy shows that he's deliberately trying to undermine Maryland's minority communities? Considering that 82% of Democrats as of May 2020 approve of Hogan's performance, a higher number than he enjoys among Republicans (according to this poll: https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2020/05/26/may-gonzales-poll-hogan-trump-approval/), I don't think they would agree. You also seem to be implying that he tried to use his cancer diagnosis for his own political benefit-which I find to be a disturbing insinuation. But then again, there are always going to be partisans who will oppose political figures of the opposite orientation from them, regardless of how well such an individual has performed in office.

[Calthrina950]

It kind of reminds me of Mike Beebe getting reelected AR Governor in an uneventful landslide even as the rest of his party was collapsing and Democrats in comparable places were being obliterated.

Seriously though, how on earth did he manage that? He was literally the only southern Democrat who survived.

Arkansas does stick out as a sore thumb on the 2010 gubernatorial results map, and Beebe's result is even more impressive when you consider that Blanche Lincoln was getting destroyed by more than 20% on the exact same ballot! And Beebe managed to win every single county in the state.

[Calthrina950]

This is a old thread, but it's hilarious to read many of the hysterical responses on this in hindsight, given how Hogan has consistently been among the nation's most popular Governors and has governed as a moderate pragmatist. Reading this, you'd think Hogan was a fire-breathing, extremist demagogue.

He is absolutely a demagogue. A smart and sophisticated one, but a demagogue. www.baltimoresun.com/citypaper/bcpnews-boss-hg-larry-hogan-has-baltimore-right-where-he-wants-it-20150707-story.html

I don't understand the point that you're trying to make here. Are you saying that Hogan's infrastructure policy shows that he's deliberately trying to undermine Maryland's minority communities? Considering that 82% of Democrats as of May 2020 approve of Hogan's performance, a higher number than he enjoys among Republicans (according to this poll: https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2020/05/26/may-gonzales-poll-hogan-trump-approval/), I don't think they would agree. You also seem to be implying that he tried to use his cancer diagnosis for his own political benefit-which I find to be a disturbing insinuation. But then again, there are always going to be partisans who will oppose political figures of the opposite orientation from them, regardless of how well such an individual has performed in office.

I know my home state. Some poll from the height of COVID does not prove your case one bit. Hogan ran a campaign based on suburban and exurban resentment - not just of Bmore, but of some MoCo suburbs as well. Then the Bmore Rebellion hit amd Hogan realized he could bring MoCo Democrats into the fold by sending in the troops and arresting all the scary Black Men. There are some who are still in jail. Afterwards, Hogan revealed his plans to help "heal" Baltimore - tearing down vacanr houses. You think people didn't get the message? That their land, their lives were worthless? C'mon!
Since then Hogan has spread lies after lies about Baltimore and about teachers. Many Maryland Democrats were too willing to go along with his trashing of a plan to adress the unbelieveable inequities in Maryland schooling. Not to mention he was very much an ally in the fights to keep MoCo and HoCo schools segregated. The spectre of Freddie Grey continues to shape Maryland politics, and Hogan is cunning enough to realize this...

I didn't know that Maryland was your home state, and it isn't "some poll". I despise how many here on Atlas seem to reject or uphold polls based upon the results that they desire. If Hogan's policies were so destructive to minority communities, why did he receive an unprecedented (for a Republican) share of the black vote in his 2018 reelection? Obviously, there has to be something more there than you conceive. And as I recall, the riots which occurred in Baltimore several years back required his intervention, because the Mayor (Stephanie Rawlings-Blake) certainly wasn't doing enough to address the situation. But I digress. I suppose that you disapprove of Phil Scott and Charlie Baker as well. And I suspect that you'd wish Martin O'Malley (who was unpopular by the time he left office and had numerous controversies of his own) were still your Governor.

[Calthrina950]

And I suspect that you'd wish Martin O'Malley (who was unpopular by the time he left office and had numerous controversies of his own) were still your Governor.

LOL

If this is all you have to respond to my last post, then that's unfortunate. I'm not going to allow such things to affect me.

[Calthrina950]

It kind of reminds me of Mike Beebe getting reelected AR Governor in an uneventful landslide even as the rest of his party was collapsing and Democrats in comparable places were being obliterated.

Seriously though, how on earth did he manage that? He was literally the only southern Democrat who survived.

Arkansas does stick out as a sore thumb on the 2010 gubernatorial results map, and Beebe's result is even more impressive when you consider that Blanche Lincoln was getting destroyed by more than 20% on the exact same ballot! And Beebe managed to win every single county in the state.

I've said it a million times here, but there is zero evidence that "wave" midterms affect gubernatorial elections.

And I think that you have a legitimate point. Arkansas was basically 2010's equivalent to Massachusetts, Maryland, and Vermont in 2018. In all four states, Governors of one political party were reelected in a landslide while Senators of another political party were elected (or reelected) in a parallel landslide. Massachusetts is probably the strongest parallel to Arkansas of these three, since Baker and Beebe both outperformed the opposing-party victor in the Senatorial races (Boozeman and Warren).