AL-SEN 2020: Doug Jones vs. The Entire Political Establishment of Alabama

[Alabama_Indy10]

Jones is a lot more popular than I expected he would be. I think he's doing a hell of a job. Though running in 2020 will be more difficult than the 2017 special election. I would say probably strong lean R because of the amount of people who just vote straight R, particularly in a presidential year.

[Alabama_Indy10]

Unless something miraculous happens, I’d put money on Byrne beating Jones (if it came down to those 2).

[Alabama_Indy10]

I believe the upcoming Supreme Court battle is important to Jones if he wants to have a chance at reelection. IMO, anything short of a Yes vote is political suicide.

[Alabama_Indy10]

I believe the upcoming Supreme Court battle is important to Jones if he wants to have a chance at reelection. IMO, anything short of a Yes vote is political suicide.

That would abandon the very voters who put him there, the black voters who came out at presidential levels to support him.

That is true but white turnout will be up A LOT over 2017 due to it being a presidential year. 2017 was also an incredibly unique situation.

[Alabama_Indy10]

I believe the upcoming Supreme Court battle is important to Jones if he wants to have a chance at reelection. IMO, anything short of a Yes vote is political suicide.

As if people will remember a vote from 2 years before when they have a hard time remembering a scandal from the week before.

Trust me. If he votes No, it will be on every ad in the state.

[Alabama_Indy10]

I believe the upcoming Supreme Court battle is important to Jones if he wants to have a chance at reelection. IMO, anything short of a Yes vote is political suicide.

That would abandon the very voters who put him there, the black voters who came out at presidential levels to support him.

That is true but white turnout will be up A LOT over 2017 due to it being a presidential year. 2017 was also an incredibly unique situation.

He couldn't win white voters over ROY FREAKING MOORE in 2017, he won't be able to win them in 2020. He needs to double down on his base and hope the Republicans put up another dreadful candidate. Pandering to conservative whites won't win him any votes, but will cost him many.

Where in my statement did I say he would win white voters? That’s not going to happen. He won in 2017 because black voters turned out and white voters largely didn’t (compared to usual). This will change in a presidential year.

[Alabama_Indy10]

So we should just allow Doug Jones to vote for a Supreme court nominee that will threaten our livelihoods? Are you kidding? If he does that, he doesn't deserve a cent for his re-election bid in 2020. No ifs ands or buts. Besides, he'll lose anyway. In Presidential years, voters tend to split tickets less.

No. I'm serious.

[Alabama_Indy10]

Watch Doug Jones vote yes and still lose re-election! Then try and lecture me about idealism! It's Alabama for goodness sakes and he was running against a pedophile! He's not going to get that lucky again.

That's my exact point. All I originally said was if he wanted a chance at reelection, he needs to vote Yes.

[Alabama_Indy10]

State Auditor Jim Ziegler (R) is apparently considering a run.

http://www.alreporter.com/2018/11/08/zeigler-mulls-run-for-us-senate/

[Alabama_Indy10]

AL Indy - I have to imagine there are a LOT of ambitious pols in Alabama who want a crack st this who wouldn’t defer to Sessions, correct?

Although I still think Sessions is pretty popular, I believe you are right. I imagine a lot of people are gearing up for a run.

[Alabama_Indy10]

https://www.al.com/news/2018/11/65-percent-of-alabama-voters-cast-straight-ticket-ballots.html

An example of how polarized Alabama is. 65% of voters cast a straight ticket ballot Tuesday.

[Alabama_Indy10]

https://www.al.com/news/2018/11/65-percent-of-alabama-voters-cast-straight-ticket-ballots.html

An example of how polarized Alabama is. 65% of voters cast a straight ticket ballot Tuesday.

Im guessing you were one of the 35?

That is correct.

[Alabama_Indy10]

I’d call it Tilt R. Jones is definitely a stronger incumbent than Heitkamp, Donnelly, and McCaskill, but AL is also redder than IN and MO, and it’s a presidential year. We’ll see, a lot will depend on who they nominate.

lmao lol @tilt R
Remember the Alabama exit polls
Trumps approval was 49 and dissaproval was like 48. There were like no swing voters. It was all turnout. In a presidential year Trump will get atleast 57% percent in Alabama even in a yuge democrat wave and the dem gets 43. There won't be the split voters in Alabama. For every Alabama_Indy who might consider Jones there will be 50 Paulite Hicks.

I actually voted for Jones last time but unless the Republicans literally nominate Roy Moore again (or another pedo) I will be voting Republican.

[Alabama_Indy10]

I’d call it Tilt R. Jones is definitely a stronger incumbent than Heitkamp, Donnelly, and McCaskill, but AL is also redder than IN and MO, and it’s a presidential year. We’ll see, a lot will depend on who they nominate.

lmao lol @tilt R
Remember the Alabama exit polls
Trumps approval was 49 and dissaproval was like 48. There were like no swing voters. It was all turnout. In a presidential year Trump will get atleast 57% percent in Alabama even in a yuge democrat wave and the dem gets 43. There won't be the split voters in Alabama. For every Alabama_Indy who might consider Jones there will be 50 Paulite Hicks.

I actually voted for Jones last time but unless the Republicans literally nominate Roy Moore again (or another pedo) I will be voting Republican.

Fair enough I guess. I would be the same but I wouldn't want another Theocrat like Moore even without pedo.

I also wouldn't support someone like Tom Parker. He's basically Roy Moore without the pedo allegations.

[Alabama_Indy10]

I think Jones is toast. Not only because of his vote against Kavanaugh but because he has to share a ballot with Trump in a presidential year.