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Question: Which man was the more skilled politician?
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Bill Clinton
 
#2
Ronald Reagan
 
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Bacon King
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« on: October 02, 2014, 02:41:05 PM »

The answer to this depends on what is meant by "politician"

Reagan was far superior to Clinton in the performance aspect of politics, with famous debate victories and speeches that were strong, memorable, and persuasive. This strength allowed him to define the country's political discourse on his own terms.

Where Clinton really excelled was strategy and intuition. Clinton was excellent at negotiating with the Republican Congress, triangulating so deftly that even when he was literally just passing their agenda he was able to steal the credit and claim it as his own. In 1995 he put a stop to Republican shutdown tactics by masterminding a plan where he goaded Speaker Gingrich into initiating and maintaining a shutdown on unfavorable terms just by treating Gingrich disrespectfully on an airplane trip - he knew the man's personality and could tell where all the pieces would fall from there.
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Bacon King
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« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2014, 04:53:58 PM »

Iran Contra, easily the gravest presidential scandal in American history

No, the gravest presidential scandal in American history is the intentional and premeditated delivery of half of Europe to Stalin and all of China to "so-called Communist" and "agrarian reformer" Mao.

[citation needed]

Okay, I'll bite. What evidence do you have to suggest:

1A. the Soviet Union's assumption of dominion over Eastern Europe after WW2 was primarily the result of specific action(s) taken by the US President?
1B. the above action(s) had a specific and intentional goal of accomplishing this outcome?
1C. this outcome was deliberately sought in advance by the US President?

2A. the Communist victory in the Chinese Civil War was primarily the result of specific action(s) taken by the US President?
2B. the above action(s) had a specific and intentional goal of accomplishing this outcome?
2C. this outcome was deliberately sought by the US President?
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