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Bacon King
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« on: September 08, 2009, 06:28:55 PM »
« edited: September 17, 2009, 07:29:15 PM by Senator MasterJedi, PPT »

Efficient Automobile Rebate System Bill

Section 1: Rebates

1. An optional rebate of $4500-$5000 shall be given to consumers who purchase a compact automobile (car) with a rating of at least 33 miles to the gallon or more.

2. An optional rebate of $3500-$4000 shall be given to consumers who purchase a Sport Utility Vehicle or truck with a rating of at least 26 miles to the gallon or more.

3. The total amount of the rebate shall be determined by the amount of gas mileage to the gallon.

4. A total of $8 billion shall be appropriated to this program.

5. This program shall come to an end six months after being signed into law, or the depletion of the funds appropriated, whichever happens first.

Section 2: Eligibility

1. To qualify for the rebate outlined in Section 1, Clause 1, the consumer must have a car that is a model manufactured at least ten years ago, and has been estimated by the EPA to travel 21 miles to the gallon.

2. To qualify for the rebate outlined in Section 1, Clause 2, the consumer must have a Sport Utility Vehicle or truck that is a model manufactured at least ten years ago, and has been estimated by the EPA to travel 18 miles to the gallon.

Spon: Sen. Marokai Blue
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Bacon King
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« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2009, 08:34:50 PM »

Senators have 24 hours to object to Hashemite's amendment being taken as friendly.
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Bacon King
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« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2009, 12:09:47 PM »

I favor Tmth's amendment.  Marokai, I am not getting why you so strongly oppose it.  I guess I don't understand what you are trying to accomplish.

It guts the purpose of the amendment, which is to get people buying cars again. The average MPG in 2008 model cars was only 21! If we're going to continue to push the required number for buying a car higher and higher it makes it less likely people will buy new vehicles.

We're turning this into a solely environmental measure as opposed to an economic stimulus program, and we're mucking up a program that already had much higher requirements for MPG than the real one.

I don't want my name on such a thing.

I posted a good list of vehicles that met the requirements for cars. You can't justify your position as anything except roadblocking.

Almost all of them are foreign.

That too.

Plenty of "foreign" cars are actually made in the US these days, while "American" cars generally have lots of components built abroad.
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Bacon King
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« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2009, 09:11:09 PM »

Senators have 24 hours to object to Hashemite's amendment being taken as friendly.

The amendment has now been added to the bill. I've updated the text in the first post.
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Bacon King
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« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2009, 08:25:28 PM »

There has been no debate on Senator Tmthforu94's amendment for over 24 hours. I can start a vote on the amendment as soon as a Senator calls for it.
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« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2009, 08:52:25 PM »

There is a vote on the following amendment. Please vote aye, nay, or abstain. This vote will remain open for five days at most, or until there are enough votes for the amendment to pass or fail. Senators can change their vote at any time while voting is still open.

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Bacon King
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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2009, 09:17:14 PM »

Senators voting in favor of the amendment: Fritz, Tmthforu94
Senators voting against the amendment: Marokai Blue, RowanBrandon
Senators abstaining: none
Senators yet to vote: all others
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Bacon King
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« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2009, 12:17:34 AM »

Senators voting in favor of the amendment: Fritz, Tmthforu94 (2)
Senators voting against the amendment: Marokai Blue, RowanBrandon, MaxQue (3)
Senators abstaining: NCYankee (1)
Senators yet to vote: Franzl, Hashemite, afleitch, MasterJedi (4)
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Bacon King
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« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2009, 10:00:28 AM »

Senators voting in favor of the amendment: Fritz, Tmthforu94, Franzl, afleitch, Hashemite, MasterJedi (6)
Senators voting against the amendment: Marokai Blue, RowanBrandon, MaxQue (3)
Senators abstaining: NCYankee (1)

The amendment passes. Normal debate continues.
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Bacon King
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« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2009, 10:43:36 PM »

Senators voting in favor of the amendment: Fritz, Tmthforu94, Franzl, afleitch, Hashemite, MasterJedi (6)
Senators voting against the amendment: Marokai Blue, RowanBrandon, MaxQue (3)
Senators abstaining: NCYankee (1)

The amendment passes. Normal debate continues.

That was fast. If I still can I'll change my vote to Aye. Not that it matters anyway.

Officially no, although informally it's common for someone in your situation to say "aye ftr" (for the record) to display how they would have voted if they had the chance.
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Bacon King
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« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2009, 09:55:58 AM »

Anyone wanna call for a vote on this?
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Bacon King
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« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2009, 01:34:46 PM »

Senators, there is an amendment at vote to add the following text to Section 2 of this bill. Please vote aye, nay, or abstain. Votes can be changed at any point before five days elapse or a majority is reached.

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