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Grumpier Than Uncle Joe
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« on: August 22, 2013, 10:54:41 AM »

Yeah, the transphobia already in this thread is pretty awful.

In any case, I wish her luck in her transition. Hopefully, wherever she'll be imprisoned will let her have access to HRT (although probably not).

What is HRT?
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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2013, 11:54:15 AM »

Yeah, the transphobia already in this thread is pretty awful.

In any case, I wish her luck in her transition. Hopefully, wherever she'll be imprisoned will let her have access to HRT (although probably not).

What is HRT?

Hormone replacement therapy.

Also, a lot of you people are being absolutely awful, but I say that more in sorrow than in anger at this point.

Thanks, Nathan, I had no clue.

I'm not sure if I'm in favor of the government paying for it though.  I have to give it some more thought.   
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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2013, 12:27:08 PM »

Yeah, the transphobia already in this thread is pretty awful.

In any case, I wish her luck in her transition. Hopefully, wherever she'll be imprisoned will let her have access to HRT (although probably not).

What is HRT?

Hormone replacement therapy.

Also, a lot of you people are being absolutely awful, but I say that more in sorrow than in anger at this point.

Thanks, Nathan, I had no clue.

I'm not sure if I'm in favor of the government paying for it though.  I have to give it some more thought.    

You're welcome.

I think that depends on one's opinion of where the burden for health care in prison in general should lie, but I can understand why one might characterize or be tempted to characterize this sort of thing as elective or relating more to mental health. I would disagree with the implications of characterizing it this way, but I can understand why one might.

Well, even mental health issues shouldn't be overlooked, but I guess I'm wondering is it necessary, whatever that might mean.  Necessary medical, dental, mental health issues I have no problem with.  We're locking them up so that's the cost of doing so.  I doubt he needs HRT to live a non-torturous existence in prison, but honestly, I have no clue.  I suspect in the the end the feds will never pony up for it.
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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2013, 01:08:27 PM »

Let's see. Manning thinks he is a woman, but failed heretofore to do anything about it. Now that he is in jail, he wants the State to pay for it. Want elective medical care? Just commit a serious crime, and go to jail, and you can have it. What is wrong with this picture?

Manning is still merely 24 years old; these things very often take a good deal of time to process and/or come to terms with.  And I don't think that "failed heretofore to do anything about it" is an accurate assessment of the facts, either.

How old were you when you came out, again?

For Torie   pub>gay
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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2013, 02:51:23 PM »

Why must it become political issue though, if she doesn't want it to?

So annoying.

So are you, and now that everyone knows it bothers you, expect to see it constantly.  K?  Thx.
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« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2013, 03:08:21 PM »

I love how Link is now complaining about how male-dominated this place is.

Our good friend, Link, has been combative since the very first day he existed on this forum (even before he was Link).  He's been a long timer though, and I still like him.
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« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2013, 03:13:54 PM »

Isn't it enough that she will lose 35 years of her life in prison? Why should she also be forced to also endure being psychologically unwell by being forced to live as a man? I'm biased, of course, but it makes sense to me. Yes, it costs the state money - but disallowing it amounts to cruel and unusual punishment. If you happened to have a chronic but not life threatening disease when you entered prison, would the services and medication you need remain unavailable? Only because people struggle to empathise with her specific condition do they question her. Some of you need to grow up.

He should pay for it himself. Any other (non criminal) American would have to.


Quite frankly, with the following Manning has, the funds could be easily raised, but the Army is not going to permit it, period.
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