Biden VP news megathread (pg 286 - been selected, announcement could be today)

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Duckworth out? Are they Abrams-ing her?

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1287733549089660928

This process is beginning to look like it is not terribly sound, bad news if you expect a successful presidency.

It is clear they have red flags with Harris, Biden doesn't really want her.

Rice also has political liabilities, her Benghazi background and Bergdahl comments about him serving with honor and distinction are fodder for the right and do nothing to appeal to the middle. Not to say she is a lifelong insider who won't connect with voters.

Bass is completely untested, favored by the left and just highly risky.

Things are so quiet on Demings you wonder if they are keeping it coy and she is at the top of the pack.

I feel like if Biden isn't truly comfortable with his African-American choices he should just look at Whitmer and Grisham. Both are competent Governors and qualified for the job.

Dodd not liking Harris =/= Biden not liking Harris

Demings seems to have fallen off ever since her own POLITICO hit piece.

And since when is Bass favored by the left? I didn't think she was really favored by anybody but Chris Dodd.

Dodd doesn't seem like the best person to be running this selection, lets be honest.

Very true.

If anything, Dodd's ridiculous vendetta against Harris (don't forget she prosecuted his buddies for mortgage fraud) has only bolstered her chances. Why is that sexual abuser on a vetting panel for a female vp, anyway.

Shots Fired!

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https://twitter.com/rudnicknoah/status/1287868530839363584

That's politics. I think the reason Harris gets a lot of push back also is because she has her own infrastructure of a political group. Biden would be smart to have someone who will shoot with him straight, Kamala would do that, but the self-serving I think is a big red flag to some. It really depends what Biden has in his plans for an agenda. If it's status-quo and get out of the pandemic, I don't think he picks Harris. Now if it's to uproot the whole system and make whole sale changes, Harris becomes a much more likely option as she's shown to move from previous positions. Much like Gillibrand when she moved from the House to the Senate.

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Kamala Harris, Susan Rice & Karen Bass have been trending all day on Twitter. Seems like people are out to push their candidate for VP. Breitbart has been trending too with these quack doctors.

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I'll be surprised if Biden makes his pick on Saturday, I think he'll make the announcement after the HEROES/HEALS Act with Congress is negotiated and passed into law. Then switch gears to his VP pick and head into the convention with momentum.

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I think it's safe to say by now that the anti-Harris movement by Dodd and other Biden donors/confidants has backfired. Many women and blacks are pissed and the press took notice.
If Biden picks someone else then the story will be framed not us "Biden picks X" but "Biden shuns Harris". It might not be fair but you can blame these bozos for trying to influence the decision process in such a ham-fisted way.

Kamala Harris is the most well-known VP candidate out there besides Elizabeth Warren. Biden/Harris ticket will work and if they win the election, then her Senate seat will be appointed by Gavin Newsom. I just hope he doesn't give it to Eric Garcetti.

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After all this stuff going on in the past couple weeks, it's clear as day who Joe Biden needs to pick. While I was on the KLB train for most of this and I believed Susan Rice to be an interesting choice. It's still clear to me who needs to be the pick for VP and while everyone who wanted Warren (It would be a solid choice) probably has come to terms it won't be her. Joe Biden needs to pick Kamala Harris as his VP, she has the backing of the majority, her work as a DA & AG should be a positive with the message Biden is trying to push and Kamala Harris has worked very hard since becoming U.S. Senator along with her experience in National campaigns. The choice is clear and BidenWorld needs to wrap their collective head around it.

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If you look at it from a strategy standpoint, Tammy Duckworth is a very interesting pick. Because they attack the military, it goes against the message of kneeling during the anthem being about the troops. If they attack her for not being a black woman, then it goes against the GOP strategy of All Lives Matter. She's also disabled, and her biggest gaffe is that she said listen to people who may want to take down a statue of one of our slave-owning government officials during the Revolution. Duckworth could lay low, and would she even want to run as President in 2024?

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I'm wondering if the delay is purely tactical.

The moment he announces a running mate, that will take the focus off Trump's ongoing trainwreck, and after a very brief honeymoon the media will transition to coverage of all Trump and his Republicans' attacks on Biden's VP. Why give them any more time for that? He doesn't need a bounce or more airtime, he (and his VP) just need to remain a credible alternative to a president who is the political equivalent of polonium.

Announce right before the convention, ride the buzz to get free publicity for what will likely be a well-run if unorthodox convention (for even more publicity), and then Trump's GOP scum only get four days of attacks before they get their own ill-planned convention.

I think he would rather announce after a deal gets done between the HEALS vs. HEROES Act, it would look a little tone-deaf if he announced this week. August 7th is the date to get something meaningful done.

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Optics, optics, optics. Polling be damed, the vp to the first black president will not pass over qualified black women in favour of a 70 year old white woman. There will be backlash

Curious what your thoughts would be if Tammy Duckworth is chosen.

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I'm following the next HEALS/HEROES Act package and they still got this nonsense with the VP going on. I'm sure he's waiting for them to get a deal done before announcing it, but Congress is being Congress and it looks like the whole thing is about to derail because Mnunchin & Meadows are still running around crying that $600/wk boost is too much when a majority of people are making less even with the boost, but god forbid people in poverty make extra money. Scumbags.

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I'm following the next HEALS/HEROES Act package and they still got this nonsense with the VP going on. I'm sure he's waiting for them to get a deal done before announcing it, but Congress is being Congress and it looks like the whole thing is about to derail because Mnunchin & Meadows are still running around crying that $600/wk boost is too much when a majority of people are making less even with the boost, but god forbid people in poverty make extra money. Scumbags.

If Biden is waiting on Congress, the VP pick isnt coming until next year

There has to be some strategy to it, maybe announce tomorrow if they're in a stalemate and have the VP make the rounds and push Congress to act. But if they don't pass a stimulus bill, it'll accelerate an already on-coming depression.

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Are people still talking about Warren having been a Republican 40 years ago? Do these people also believe Ronald Reagan was a secret leftist since he was a New Deal Dem before he wasn't?

What about Bush and wanting amnesty? Hillary Clinton was a Republican too. I swear, if you want to look at Elizabeth Warren's record for the last 20 years, that's what she should be judged on.

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I'm following the next HEALS/HEROES Act package and they still got this nonsense with the VP going on. I'm sure he's waiting for them to get a deal done before announcing it, but Congress is being Congress and it looks like the whole thing is about to derail because Mnunchin & Meadows are still running around crying that $600/wk boost is too much when a majority of people are making less even with the boost, but god forbid people in poverty make extra money. Scumbags.

If Biden is waiting on Congress, the VP pick isnt coming until next year

There has to be some strategy to it, maybe announce tomorrow if they're in a stalemate and have the VP make the rounds and push Congress to act. But if they don't pass a stimulus bill, it'll accelerate an already on-coming depression.

Interesting strategy. Even more so if the VP  nominee is a member of Congress herself.

I agree. Kamala Harris has been pushing the $2000/mo until the pandemic is over for every American which I believe Ro Khanna also sponsored. Karen Bass the Chair of the Black Congressional Caucus. Elizabeth Warren as well would do well in that spot. Biden really needs to go with his gut, if he really is uncomfortable with Kamala Harris, then don't pick her, might be a little short-sighted but do what's best for you, he earned this nomination.

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I refuse to argue with a white man who claims to know what "blacks" want or don't want.  Not in 2020.

I'm following the next HEALS/HEROES Act package and they still got this nonsense with the VP going on. I'm sure he's waiting for them to get a deal done before announcing it, but Congress is being Congress and it looks like the whole thing is about to derail because Mnunchin & Meadows are still running around crying that $600/wk boost is too much when a majority of people are making less even with the boost, but god forbid people in poverty make extra money. Scumbags.

If Biden is waiting on Congress, the VP pick isnt coming until next year

There has to be some strategy to it, maybe announce tomorrow if they're in a stalemate and have the VP make the rounds and push Congress to act. But if they don't pass a stimulus bill, it'll accelerate an already on-coming depression.

Interesting strategy. Even more so if the VP  nominee is a member of Congress herself.

I agree. Kamala Harris has been pushing the $2000/mo until the pandemic is over for every American which I believe Ro Khanna also sponsored. Karen Bass the Chair of the Black Congressional Caucus. Elizabeth Warren as well would do well in that spot. Biden really needs to go with his gut, if he really is uncomfortable with Kamala Harris, then don't pick her, might be a little short-sighted but do what's best for you, he earned this nomination.

Is there precedent for that? A VP nominee who is also a member of congress, taking an active vocal role (in negotiations) in the midst of an election. I'm trying to think back to 2012.

Why not? The GOP is ready to steer the whole ship into the iceberg head-on and not care. I gotta give it to Pelosi, she's sticking to the script and bringing Chuck along for the ride. Can you imagine if Tim Ryan became Speaker of the House? It would be a disaster, he'd be giving into everything the GOP wants.

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Meh. When I'm 50, AOC will be finishing the touches on her library.

The #RoseTwitter AU Fanfic Library?  Because she's certainly not gonna get anywhere near the WH in this universe

You'll probably have to wait 25-30 years after the boomers have their moment in the sun, but AOC will be President.

Depending how everything plays out, AOC could run in 2024 but I don't think that would be the smart play. She should look at getting one of the U.S. Senator seats in New York as rumors of them possibly drawing her out of the House swirl, which would be a major political blunder by establishment Democrats. But I think AOC 2032 is probably the time to strike especially if she moves up the ranks in Government.

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Meh. When I'm 50, AOC will be finishing the touches on her library.

The #RoseTwitter AU Fanfic Library?  Because she's certainly not gonna get anywhere near the WH in this universe

You'll probably have to wait 25-30 years after the boomers have their moment in the sun, but AOC will be President.

Depending how everything plays out, AOC could run in 2024 but I don't think that would be the smart play. She should look at getting one of the U.S. Senator seats in New York as rumors of them possibly drawing her out of the House swirl, which would be a major political blunder by establishment Democrats. But I think AOC 2032 is probably the time to strike especially if she moves up the ranks in Government.

Schumer's seat is hers. Just a matter of time.

I think so too and honestly, I think personally, Chuck Schumer really likes her. Actually, quite a few people like AOC, I think they like the fact she's a lightning rod. She can be the one to take the torch from Bernie while actually being under the Democratic Party umbrella.

Anyways, back on topic. Val Demings has shot up 6% on the betting markets, not sure why. Duckworth is up a couple percentage points and Bass has slipped 4% points.

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After reading the last 5 pages, I'm stunned this thread hasn't been locked or posts deleted. What a s**tshow

No need to, once Biden elects his VP this will all be over. It's fun watching the bickering because everyone can't see how biased their being. Like I've said, I'll support whoever he picks, almost whoever but even if I don't agree with the pick, I'll still vote for him.

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Meh. When I'm 50, AOC will be finishing the touches on her library.

The #RoseTwitter AU Fanfic Library?  Because she's certainly not gonna get anywhere near the WH in this universe

You'll probably have to wait 25-30 years after the boomers have their moment in the sun, but AOC will be President.

Depending how everything plays out, AOC could run in 2024 but I don't think that would be the smart play. She should look at getting one of the U.S. Senator seats in New York as rumors of them possibly drawing her out of the House swirl, which would be a major political blunder by establishment Democrats. But I think AOC 2032 is probably the time to strike especially if she moves up the ranks in Government.

Schumer's seat is hers. Just a matter of time.

I think so too and honestly, I think personally, Chuck Schumer really likes her. Actually, quite a few people like AOC, I think they like the fact she's a lightning rod. She can be the one to take the torch from Bernie while actually being under the Democratic Party umbrella.

Anyways, back on topic. Val Demings has shot up 6% on the betting markets, not sure why. Duckworth is up a couple percentage points and Bass has slipped 4% points.

I dont think the House is the apex of her career. Iirc there was some chatter this year of her even primarying Schumer

I don't think she'll do it, she made a lot of changes to her staff in the first year in the House which caught the eye of a lot of people. Some hardcore Justice Democrats lost their minds etc, but you have to play the game in Washington, DC. Obama figured that out, most politicians do once they get inside. When she was called an F'n B**** the other week, people from both sides came to her defense and they know she has a firebrand style of politics. She's only going to get more powerful, can you imagine what AOC and Pressley can do if they both get Senate seats. That's a big deal.

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AOC is a team player, I don't think she would make a play for the Senate until Schumer retires. Why throw away all the good will she just got?

Exactly. Any of the senior people in Washington saw what happened with Engel need to get on her good side and if she's playing ball, they need to as well. Hell AOC has options, the Senate makes the most sense but she could run for Mayor of New York City and if people don't think she could become Mayor, people are not paying attention.

Anyways, back on topic. Why is Val Demings getting betting money right now? Did a slew of articles come out for her today? I'm not understanding. Is it because the drop of Karen Bass with her two gaffes and how internally people are trying to sabotage Kamala Harris.

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https://twitter.com/NBCPolitics/status/1290426500584476674

This is 100% true. I think the problem is most people with common sense know that. It's the pandering to the crowd your speaking with that shows somewhat lack of judgement. But if you research her donors, one of them is the Entertainment business and Scientology is heavily involved in Hollywood in Los Angeles County. I think she has an admiration for probably the Healthcare & Education system in Cuba, the means of getting their were not kind to the everyday citizen in Cuba.

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Anyways, back on topic. Why is Val Demings getting betting money right now? Did a slew of articles come out for her today? I'm not understanding. Is it because the drop of Karen Bass with her two gaffes and how internally people are trying to sabotage Kamala Harris.

Clyburn said Demings is still being seriously considered.

Interesting, maybe Val Demings becomes the meet in the middle pick? She's been awfully quiet, I thought it was because they found something on her during the vetting process.

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Biden is going to be dragged to the Kamala train kicking and screaming at this point lol

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Susan Rice has shot up 6% today on betting sites. Hopefully Biden gets the interviews done this week, but I still think he's going to wait until Congress passes a new stimulus bill so the pick doesn't take away media coverage from the negotiations right now.

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https://news.yahoo.com/biden-reportedly-interview-5-6-123100183.html

Biden interviewing 5 to 6 finalists this week, if this is true... Pick your 6.

1.) Kamala Harris
2.) Elizabeth Warren
3.) Susan Rice
4.) Tammy Duckworth
5.) Karen Bass
6.) Gretchen Witmer

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https://news.yahoo.com/biden-reportedly-interview-5-6-123100183.html

Biden interviewing 5 to 6 finalists this week, if this is true... Pick your 6.

1.) Kamala Harris
2.) Elizabeth Warren
3.) Susan Rice
4.) Tammy Duckworth
5.) Karen Bass
6.) Gretchen Witmer

I wonder whether "5-6 candidates" means that Bass was uninvited after the events of the last week...

Oh, my bad. I just meant pick your personal 6 who you think is being interviewed. That was mine, no article stuff.