The Atlas Asylum of absurd/ignorant posts IX

[AtorBoltox]

The difference is democrats are using MAGA accurately

Should Republicans have said, "People who would probably be A-okay with implementing actual socialism if they had the political capital to do so but for now will settle for as much as they can reasonably get passed via legislation"?

Show me a democrat in leadership or the White House that’d do that

Pretty much as soon as public opinion “catches up,” every left-leaning party tries to enact as much change as possible - including Democrats.  I’ll maintain people are gullible if they don’t think most leaders on the left in America would prefer our economy was structured more like a Nordic country than what it currently is … and I’m sure I’ll be met with, “And what’s wrong with that?!”  And that will prove my point.  The vast majority are at the very least incredibly sympathetic to making our currently significantly more socialist than it currently is, and I have to laugh that a left-leaning party would take that win with a chill “We did it!” and rest easy.

[AtorBoltox]

Whether Putin's genocidal war in Ukraine or the Kaiserreich's genocide of the Herero and Namaqua peoples is worse is impossible to answer

The latter was worse and it is genocide denial to suggest otherwise

[AtorBoltox]

The fact that 500,000 Tasmanians (10% of which are unemployed dope smokers) have the same vote as NSW with 6M people is also another anomaly in our referendum style.

As they say, citation needed.

And think yourselves lucky your states aren't as unequal in population as is the case for the US.

British colonialists exterminated an entire race of people from Tasmania, a feat that impressed Adolf Hitler so much he drew up plans to re-exterminate the entire population of Tasmania and use it as the location for his Aryan Breeding Program, and all you want me to provide evidence of young unemployed people in Tasmania smoking bucket bongs on Friday nights?

Utter gibberish

[AtorBoltox]

We definitely see continuity in the ideals of Eugene Talmedge with modern liberalism and the modern democratic party

In a thread about the ideological continuum of Republicans and Democrats.
Talmadge literally believed protecting Jim Crow was more important than education. Also, he became politically relevant in the 1930s, when modern liberalism was still a thing.

Well done on missing the obvious sarcasm and posting directly into the thread

[AtorBoltox]

This referendum is a good example of why direct democracy is bad & stupid.

Governments elected with a minority of the vote (1st preferences in this case), would not be expected to be that democratic towards the majority which voted someone else.

So referendums tend to be the only opportunity for the majority to vent against the minority in power, that's why Parliamentary Governments always lose referendums unless they are geniunely popular.

Chance of pace from Israel/Palestine and genocide, we see a total misunderstanding of a preferential voting system.

[AtorBoltox]

Someone is going to get hurt in 2025, and there is a decent likelihood that someone will be killed. Dutton and Price need to be extremely careful of some of the forces they've unleashed in this referendum, or they'll end up sending us down the path of the United States.

What a disaster it would be if Australians vote for policies aimed at lifting their standard of living to match that of the United States!

[AtorBoltox]

I sometimes like to imagine a world where the Jews got their homeland in Alaska or Tasmania or somewhere else nice, rather than clearing out lots of Muslims in the middle east.

Then our relationship with the Muslim world would just be buying their oil and holidaying on their beaches and just maybe we wouldn't need to suffer their extremists stabbing and shooting people on our streets, flying planes into towers or bombing our buildings,  all because we continually defend and enforce a stupid decision we made over a century ago.

1. What the hell do Tasmania or Alaska have to do with Jewish people?

2. Neither of those places are particularly “nice” places to live.

3. Those places had a bunch of people who lived there. Why would it be justified to clear out all of those people?

the people who raise such points are closet racists.  They know Tasmanian or Alaskans (or New Jersyites, or Germans*, etc) wouldn't still be acting like a spoiled child who popped their own ball 70 years later.

*some clowns actually suggest that Germany would have been a good place to create the Jewish homeland in 1947...and they do it in all seriousness with a straight face.  I've seen it, several dozen times.   That's a special kind of crazy.

Tasmania is a very nice place to live, probably one of the nicest places in the world. Alaska is beautiful and offer more genuine freedom than anywhere else in the US, but is of course not for everyone. Tasmania's indigenous population had been exterminated so none of the residents really had a good claim to stay there rather than somewhere else in Australia.

Removing the Germans from Germany and deporting them to Central Asia, Siberia and the Sahel and paying some South American countries to take the "nice ones" (confirmed active anti-Nazis, trade unionists, artists, pacifists etc.) and killing off the Nazi party members and the old German military, economic and administrative establishment would have been fair. A Jewish homeland in an ethnically cleansed Germany wasn't what the Jews wanted, and would have been difficult logistically but Germany is far too nice a place (temperate climate, natural beauty, fertile soil) for a people with a track record like the Germans, and given that they took advantage of the Jews being a diaspora people reducing the Germans to a diaspora people would have been poetic justice.

Why do all the alternate 'solutions' to where the Jews should have gone after WW2 involve ethnic cleansing on a scale vastly greater than what actually happened in Palestine?

[AtorBoltox]

Taiwan starts a war with China, and Iran starts a war with Israel.

[AtorBoltox]

Bangladesh
 Bolivia
 Colombia
 Jordan
 Malaysia
 Maldives
 Namibia
 Nicaragua
 Pakistan
 Palestine
 Turkey
 Venezuela
 Arab League
 Organisation of Islamic Cooperation

My fav world leader (Gustavo Petro from Colombia) also joined. This is a good case where one can see the good guys stand up, and the ones that are fake.

[AtorBoltox]

Treasurer's signature quotes me. GMac's signature quotes some guy called Primo Levi. Easy choice.

[AtorBoltox]

Should have joined imperial Germany to crush France and the uk and free millions of oppressed colonial people

[AtorBoltox]

The videos of the campus from the past weekend are horrific. Daily Charlottesville-style antisemitic hate rallies, and of course the racist far-left falls over themselves to defend it.

This gives me the same vibes as the person who screamed out of their car "Stop killing cops!" at us while I protested with friends in 2020. Lol.

That’s nice that you’re laughing out loud at people chanting antisemitic slogans and intimidating Jews to the point that their religious leaders are telling them to avoid campus for their own safety, but normal/non-racist people find this all very upsetting.

There are children and entire families being blown to smithereens right now with our weapons and tax dollars. What you're saying is an appeal to emotion but is not actually happening at any scale that would endanger Jewish people, as has already been covered by others considering the so-called 'threat' is in many cases other Jewish people and it's disgusting that people like you are trying to make that allusion.

The fact there is a user of this forum who genuinely thinks screeching 'THERE ARE KIDS DYING IN PALESTINE WHY ARE YOU *insert literally anything here* is a good line of argument despite how much of a meme it's become is incredibly disconcerting. This is rapidly becoming a zoomer equivalent to when your parents used to try guilt trip you that 'there are children starving in Africa' when you didn't want to eat brussels sprouts.

[AtorBoltox]

I'm so sick of war. I'm 23 years old, give me a break!

Context

[AtorBoltox]

Why is this the only conflict in which you’re not allowed to identify one side by their nationality? No one says ‘Likud is razing Gaza’ or ‘United Russia attacked Ukraine’. No one would bat an eyelid at a statement ‘the Israelis are in the wrong’ but for Palestine  we always have to refer to the political party  currently in control?

[AtorBoltox]

Why should Israel give a frick about being hated by Muslims? Their mere existence is enough for Muslims to hate them, so there's no reason to care. America and Europe are perpetually unpopular in these "Muslim" countries (until comes the time to beg for asylum) and there's not much they can do. Hell, based on what I know of sharia, if radical islamists don't hate you, you must be doing something wrong.

Can't speak for Israel, but I care because of the chain of logic it creates. People like you and OSR constantly make thinly-veiled remarks about how "antisemitism should be eradicated." What does antisemitism mean? Apparently, it means hating Israel. Well, guess what-- there are two million people in Gaza (granted, fewer with each passing day) who hate Israel for perfectly good reasons. What exactly do you want to do to them? Please, just come out and say it. Stop wasting everybody's time with these pathetic obfuscations.

Dule apparently believes anti-semitism is such an ingrained inherent part of the Palestinian mindset that it can never be removed without their death