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« on: November 15, 2018, 02:06:24 PM »

Dang, Marcia Fudge really killing it by speaking what many wish they could about Empress Nancy.
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« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2018, 02:31:42 PM »

Smart guy. I'm glad Dems are waking up to how poisonous she is. 
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« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2018, 03:05:43 PM »

Why are Dems so interested in holding on to fossils in leadership? The GOP is always willing to innovate. We don't see Newt Gingrich being the House minority leader, do we? 
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« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2018, 03:48:00 PM »

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It is.

This is why it is hilarious and sad how some dumb progressives on here are cheering this on. If Ryan and Moulton get their way, Democrats will be cutting deals with R's like it is 2001. If that happens, I don't want to hear from these people anymore.

This is a generational thing more than a ideological one.

Really? Then why are they propping up a 66 year old?

I think it's about growing up with the same person in power rather than age (same with Bernie and Hillary).

The young progressive attitude toward Pelosi on here is generational, but you're right that the actual revolt in Congress is led by moderates

This would be fine and dandy if the people potentially replacing Pelosi were young progressives. But they aren't. It is just incredibly dumb for any progressive to cheer this on. Again, if Moulton and Ryan are successful, then we are going right back to 2001 and that would be a disaster.

Luckily, most progressive in congress are smarter then the some of the dopes on here and realize that they would be shooting themselves in the foot by signing on to this nonsense.

I do think you're right in that it's important to distinguish between progressives in Congress and progressives on Atlas lol Atlas users (of any ideological stripe) aren't exactly known for their critical thinking skills lol

But I do think a lot of the progressives here on Atlas are very young (or seem to be. Most seem to identify as Millennials or Generation Z) and are getting excited over the potential change in leadership (something they've never experienced/weren't old enough to experience) and aren't aware of the ramifications.
Here we are chattering about throwing back to '01, when Pelosi is a literal throwback to '09. Hmm, what happened a year later, may I ask? The progressives need to join in and put their money where their mouth is and throw out the centrist fossil calling for "bipartisanship".
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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2018, 07:41:30 PM »


Goodness, she's responding like the mafia boss we know she is. 
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« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2018, 08:12:49 PM »


Goodness, she's responding like the mafia boss we know she is. 

By doing the exact same thing to them they're doing to her?


She seems to be showing more contempt for people in her own party than...I dunno, Republicans?
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« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2018, 09:40:40 PM »

Any progressive that takes that deal will be a sell-out to their ideals.
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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2018, 01:59:21 PM »

Twitter has started some hashtags about this entire thing, none of which good for the userpers.

#ImwithPelosi/#TeamPelosi

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#fivewhitemen
The five white men being:
Tim Ryan
Seth Moulton
Bill Foster
Kurt Schrader
Ed Perlmutter

Glad you think Marcia Fudge is a white man. The willingness of progressives to abandon their ideals is sickening.
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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2018, 02:03:57 PM »

Twitter has started some hashtags about this entire thing, none of which good for the userpers.

#ImwithPelosi/#TeamPelosi

and

#fivewhitemen
The five white men being:
Tim Ryan
Seth Moulton
Bill Foster
Kurt Schrader
Ed Perlmutter


Is it really that big of an issue that Tim Ryan is a white male? Or am I too privileged? I hate the base of my party sometimes.

Being a white male isn't the issue. The issue is they are mediocre.
Better a new mediocre person in charge than someone who is a relic of the DLC era.
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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2018, 04:00:09 PM »

I don't like Boehner, but he had the decency to step aside to allow for fresh leadership to take the reins of the House portion of his party. 
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« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2018, 04:12:17 PM »

I don't like Boehner, but he had the decency to step aside to allow for fresh leadership to take the reins of the House portion of his party. 

He stepped aside when he was unable to lead the caucus. He did not step aside to "allow for fresh leadership".  Pelosi seems to have pretty strong support within the caucus. Why should she step aside?
Boehner's job from 2011-2015 was prolly the easiest ever. All he had to do was block any Dem idea coming from the Senate and shut down the govt. if things got out of hand. How hard could that be? 
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