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Question: Would you have supported Israel's creation in 1948?
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« on: June 03, 2010, 08:14:14 AM »

If I were alive in 1948, I would. If I were not only alive, but smarter than I am, I wouldn't. It was a big and cynical mistake.

Of course, now that it is there, it needs no further justification for existence. There is the Israeli people and Israelis have no other country and they have the right to it and the right to fight for it against anyone who questions their right to it. This is something I, actually, do support: an alternative would be too horrible to comprehend. We shouldn't have gotten there, but that's beyond the point. The only thing I object to, is its claim to somehow being a homeland for all Jews. I, for one, have nothing to do with it.
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« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2010, 12:21:29 AM »

Just to set the record straight:

1. There was no Palestinian state in 1948 (nor ever) so nothing was taken from anyone.
2. There was a lot of Jews in the area even before WWII, so they didn't get there because the state was created nor because of the Holocaust.

I always find it strange that the left in general is vehemently pro-immigration and considers it horribly racist to, say, argue that a large immigration of Mexicans into the US or of Arabs to Europe constitutes a threat to Western society, but yet, at the same time, thinks that Jews should not have been allowed to migrate into Israel during the 20s and 30s and that, even though this migration was legal and allowed by the authorities it was somehow deeply unethical.

Given what happened in 1937, 1948 and onwards it is pretty clear that another holocaust of Jews was the only realistic alternative to creating the state of Israel.

Creating the state - and, once again, I would have been in favor of it in 1948, and I would have been wrong - was a mistake for the Jews. For the Europeans it was a calculated antisemitic decision, trying to get rid of the Jews.
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