Some thoughts on recent BS narratives around abortion

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 Crappy Democrats like G-Mac are why we have failed on so many policy goals. Warren is actually proposing ideas so that abortion is not illegal which does a tremendous current harm to women now. Abortion is a comprehensive part of women's healthcare, according to every mainstream medical organization. Waiting to vote in November is a defeatist and stupid message. Clarence Thomas is married to an insurrectionist. The GOP is playing a different game and the Democrats are still fighting with Queensberry rules.

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Crappy Democrats like G-Mac are why we have failed on so many policy goals.

What in the world? If GMac were in charge of the party, it would be far more effective than it is now.

 No it wouldn't he's a Ron Paul libertarian dude who thinks "homeless people just want to be homeless". He is really a poor representation of any good Democrat that I've actually met that fights for equality, fairness, socialized medicine, a progressive tax system, and getting the money out of politics. The idea that a G-Mac style Democrat would be better than Warren is laughable.

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Crappy Democrats like G-Mac are why we have failed on so many policy goals. Warren is actually proposing ideas so that abortion is not illegal which does a tremendous current harm to women now. Abortion is a comprehensive part of women's healthcare, according to every mainstream medical organization. Waiting to vote in November is a defeatist and stupid message. Clarence Thomas is married to an insurrectionist. The GOP is playing a different game and the Democrats are still fighting with Queensberry rules.

Love to write a comprehensive post explaining several detailed reasons why Warren's ideas won't work, only for Atlas's #1 Warren stan to swoop in with "Warren is actually proposing ideas" as though that's a counterpoint to my post.  Completely ignoring what I actually wrote about those ideas.  I hate this place.

 You didn't write anything of note but your opinion like most of your hair-brained arguments, it's just your opinion. Democrats need to try new ideas because the totally partisan rightwing court is taking rights away from people, and it is now or will soon be illegal to provide women critical healthcare in a number of states. President Warren wouldn't have been as weak as Biden has been on this issue. Anybody who doesn't know this is living in a dream world. If you're going to tell people to vote as your grand solution maybe that should be the real message. Vote out all these weak Democrats with ones who will actually fight with every power the Federal government has for the policy you want.

 If Koch industries had a paid sock puppet account on Forum Atlas as they've been known to do on the internet, one pretending to be Democrat, I don't think the style of posting and arguments would be any different than the kind of stuff G-Mac posts.

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 If Koch industries had a paid sock puppet account on Forum Atlas as they've been known to do on the internet, one pretending to be Democrat, I don't think the style of posting and arguments would be any different than the kind of stuff G-Mac posts.

This is such a bizarre assertion that I'm not sure how to respond to it. The "threafs" GMac is known for are always detailed defenses of Biden and the Democratic Party, why they're good and why we should vote for them. If someone wanted to sock a Democrat to hurt the party, they would be doing the opposite, telling people that Biden is awful and to sit out Novmeber to send the party a message.

 That's not the way Koch Industries works. They try to shape policy no matter who's in charge or what politcal party wins. Biden was the choice of many people who don't support Democrats if a Democrat was to win because they thought he would be moderate/conservative, not shake things up, and ultimately be ineffectual.

 There are things I like about Biden but that doesn't mean he is above criticism when he is messing up. On this issues he is messing up. And all you have to do is look at the outrage of young Democratic voters that we need to win elections. They want action not a fundraising email and "We'll get them in November".

 The idea that the GOP is just better at politics has some basic merit but is eroded by their unashamed willingness to use anything that gives them power, change the rules to suit them, and use the full power of any office they hold including the courts which are not supposed to be political.

 The only bullsh**t narrative surrounding abortion, is that it's been classified as anything but healthcare and is now criminalized in great portions of this country. That's the bullsh**t narrative.

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You didn't write anything of note but your opinion like most of your hair-brained arguments, it's just your opinion. Democrats need to try new ideas because the totally partisan rightwing court is taking rights away from people, and it is now or will soon be illegal to provide women critical healthcare in a number of states. President Warren wouldn't have been as weak as Biden has been on this issue. Anybody who doesn't know this is living in a dream world. If you're going to tell people to vote as your grand solution maybe that should be the real message. Vote out all these weak Democrats with ones who will actually fight with every power the Federal government has for the policy you want.

In the unlikely event that Warren had beaten Trump at all, much less had the coattails to hold win both Houses of Congress, there's nothing more she would be able to do, unless you think she would have special sway with Manchin and Sinema, or that she could have gotten 2 more Democratic Senators elected. The president is not a dictator.

 I guess we have the government we deserve. There are very few prominent Democratic women politicians who would have taken this decision with the tepid response of Biden. Warren, Clinton, Kamala Harris, any of them would have used whatever power they had to protect abortion in every state.

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You didn't write anything of note but your opinion like most of your hair-brained arguments, it's just your opinion. Democrats need to try new ideas because the totally partisan rightwing court is taking rights away from people, and it is now or will soon be illegal to provide women critical healthcare in a number of states. President Warren wouldn't have been as weak as Biden has been on this issue. Anybody who doesn't know this is living in a dream world. If you're going to tell people to vote as your grand solution maybe that should be the real message. Vote out all these weak Democrats with ones who will actually fight with every power the Federal government has for the policy you want.

In the unlikely event that Warren had beaten Trump at all, much less had the coattails to hold win both Houses of Congress, there's nothing more she would be able to do, unless you think she would have special sway with Manchin and Sinema, or that she could have gotten 2 more Democratic Senators elected. The president is not a dictator.

 I guess we have the government we deserve. There are very few prominent Democratic women politicians who would have taken this decision with the tepid response of Biden. Warren, Clinton, Kamala Harris, any of them would have used whatever power they had to protect abortion in every state.

There's nothing any of them could do other than beg people to vote in more Democrats in November

 That's not true. They could attempt to do a number of things and let the chips fall where they might. The United States government is always changing. The Federal government has powers today that it's didn't have 25 years ago, or 50 and many of these have not come from legislation or even court rulings but by operating in the full power of the many Federal agencies and simple Presidential discretion that then is accepted as normal. November could come Democrats could pickup a few seats(which is not the predicted outcome) and we could still be in the same dysfunctional stalemate.

 Nevermind the fact that the Senate is totally undemocratic the current Senate rules are not how it's operated since it's beginning.

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For what is worth, could you cover this spin-off of the "open abortion clinics on federal land"? which is Open abortion clinics as part of the US Postal Service. I don't think it'd work (certainly wouldn't pass any serious legal review) but it's an argument I've seen made that since it's an explicit power of the US federal government, it could be done. Though I suppose the USPS could make "mail order, DIY abortions" somehow but that seems like a remedy even worse.

This wouldn't be possible for about a million reasons, even ignoring the logistical issues of the constant protestors you'd have in Post Offices and states would have ways to interfere. I also don't think post offices are on federal land, just land bought by the US Postal Service to build the building, and anyone whose been in a US Post Office knows the issues with setting up an attached clinic.

"Federal land" falls under a lot of categories but most is land administered by some federal agency like the National Park/Forestry/Fish and Wildlife Service or the federal Bureau of Land Management. Like there's a map here: https://ballotpedia.org/Federal_land_policy_in_North_Dakota

Most of it would have serious logistical issues building such a clinic but it's probably not impossible per se in all ares.

USPS offices are considered Federal property. You can not for instance follow your state's gun laws as superseding the Federal law.

No person on U.S. Postal Service® property may carry or store firearms, explosives, or other dangerous or deadly weapons, either openly or concealed, except for official purposes. See Title 39, Code of Federal Regulations, Section 232.1.

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The idea that winning every election for the next three decades is more viable than just expanding the goddamned court is peak pundit brain.

 Especially when the present rightwing court could just slice and dice whatever legislation you pass at their whim, as they've been doing.

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The idea that winning every election for the next three decades is more viable than just expanding the goddamned court is peak pundit brain.

You only really have to keep winning elections until Thomas and Alito die.  Thomas is 74 and in poor health, Alito is 72.  Scalia died at 80.  Rehnquist died at 81.  Ginsburg lived all the way to 87.  The GOP would have had to do this, but they "lucked into" a situation where they got to nominate three justices in four years.  Usually you only get to appoint one or two every decade.

 They didn't luck into anything. They refused Obama's nomination in unprecedented fashion and then turned around and nominated/confirmed another justice in the last few months before a Presidential election.