COVID-19 Megathread 5: The Trumps catch COVID-19

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Police hunt mystery person walking streets as 17th-century plague doctor during coronavirus outbreak

So Jealous!

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 Greece did a lockdown early with good government response and despite an aging population has had way better results than much of Europe and the United States.

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 I really wonder how the response would be different/better if we didn't have President Tide Pod running the show.

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'So what?': Bolsonaro shrugs off Brazil's rising coronavirus death toll

 The world has gone mad for electing people like this.

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https://twitter.com/funder/status/1255960473989677061?s=20

Fox being in that group is interesting.

They're doing him a favor at this point. He looks so dumb, incoherent, and petulant that I can't imagine it does anything for his approvals or elections prospects. But it's also pretty sad that in a global pandemic the President of The United States doesn't command any kind of authoritative guidance and instead is a lying idiotic bully.  

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https://twitter.com/vote4robgill/status/1255922426120146947

How on earth on guns allowed inside a state capitol?

When the Black Panthers did something similar in the 1960's they were disarmed before their weapons were returned as they broke no laws. The media reported it as an "invasion" of the state Capitol. California quickly changed its gun laws.

 and Saint Ronald Reagan was quoted as saying “There’s no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons.”

 The Panthers were protesting actual oppression and the United States government then proceeded in surveilling, jailing, or killing every prominent member of the Black Panther Party over the next few years.

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It's amazing how they don't care.

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1257335077459165185?s=20

President Tide Pod really made a mess of this whole response.

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More assaults by people who love freedom. Two teenage employees of McDonald’s were shot by people upset the restaurant was take-out only.

https://www.koco.com/article/suspects-in-custody-after-2-employees-shot-at-mcdonalds-in-southwest-okc-police-say/32395365#

The Founding Fathers would be so proud of this use of the Second Amendment.

It is beyond my understanding how a country just assumes that incidents like these just happen once in a while because the Founding Fathers were apparently some infallible demi-gods whose opinions can never be questioned, never.

 The price of freedom is that teenagers working a fast food job should expect to be shot by disgruntled customers. That's just the price we have to pay!

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 I am rejecting all handshakes, that's dead for a very longtime.

 I would like to see mask wearing become less taboo, it's downright fashionable and cool in Asia. But this being America there are a lot of issues with that, we have a lot of gun violence, racism, private property mumbo jumbo(like malls) and we are trying to build that surveillance state, gotta build that surveillance state!

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I would like to see mask wearing become less taboo, it's downright fashionable and cool in Asia.

Here comes Grace in her mint green Louis Vuitton surgical mask. Very fashionable.

 A protective mask against flu and virus bothers you but you're one of these "open carry" supporting people. That's pretty hilarious.

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https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1258829831879430149

Straight babble.

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I would like to see mask wearing become less taboo, it's downright fashionable and cool in Asia.

Here comes Grace in her mint green Louis Vuitton surgical mask. Very fashionable.

 A protective mask against flu and virus bothers you but you're one of these "open carry" supporting people. That's pretty hilarious.

It doesn't bother me. People can choose to wear or carry whatever legal item they want as far as im concerned. But yeah I think its an absolute joke to claim surgical masks are "fashionable and cool". People are wearing these ugly masks because they think its necessary for their health, not because they match Shaona's purse. Since Im pro-choice I guess by your logic that still makes me one of these "mask wearing " supporting people as well. See, I don't freak out over the exercise of fundamental rights like those who claim seeing someone carry a gun is "violence".

So, if I'm following your logic correctly here, it isn't "violent" to carry around a power drill, handcuffs and choloroform, even say, in a back alley near night clubs at 3AM?

Not at all. If you were merely doing that in a public alley directly adjacent to a night club at 3 AM and a cop arrested you for it, I'd certainly take your case. Absent express threats, vocal or physical, (and I don't consider passive carrying a physical threat) for all I know, you are a performance artist, a prop comic, an eccentric, a kink, coming from a theme party, moving some of your stuff from one location to another, lots of likelier options than kidnapper (who uses something as dumb as a drill for a weapon rather than a gun?)... we have a local crank where I live who occasionally walks his dog with a sheathed samurai sword slung over his shoulder. Most people just roll their eyes and laugh. No one is going to pay something as portable and ubiquitous as a power drill a second glance. Visible handcuffs would likely suggest you are LEO. The chloroform would have to be large print for anyone to know what it was. And if it was in large print it would resemble more of a prop than anything since chemical labels don't look like that. And even if I did see a guy with all 3 items (in the dark at 3AM), and then assumed he was an evil kidnapper and felt scared, again so what? If he wasn't a kidnapper and didn't attempt to kidnap me or say point his drill at me and cycle it, what crime has been committed? Certainly not the "terrorism" that some of the alarmists on here espouse.

Mr. Reactionary is "pro rape-kit". I think it's silly to contraband everyday items BTW. And even support gun ownership but with a way higher burden/responsibility of ownership and way more government record keeping and regulation.

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So....

Does anyone else think we've massively misplayed this.

No, I don't think meat packers tend to be that elderly. Maybe I'm wrong on that.

^This. Meat packers tend to be below fifty, and have a physical job that requires a degree of physical fitness. They are literally the worst possible group to draw the kind of assumptions that The Free North is making. The OP is clearly just looking for data that fits a specific narrative.

The relatively benign outcomes we are observing from outbreaks like this are indeed a sign that we are going about this all wrong. 

If we are going for herd immunity, we will save hundred of thousands of lives by achieving it through voluntary deliberately infection of young and healthy people, as opposed to just continuing to let it spread randomly.  You might reduce deaths in the long run by more than 90%.

 This plan sounds stupid. You can't predict what will happen as assuredly as you can with other types of modeling and we don't even know what the long term effects of this virus are. This would also take massive co-ordination to protect those vulnerable and our critical infrastructure. The Federal response has been incompetent to do the most basic things. What makes you think they could guide anything this ambitious if it even was a good idea, which it doesn't seem to be from all the evidence we have.

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The petulant narcissist just can't handle women asking him smart questions, ran away like a coward.
https://twitter.com/axios/status/1259959091704799233

 Why would an American president ask an American reporter to ask China, a place with nothing resembling a real free press, a question.

 Besides the fact that it was stupid, sexist, bratty behavior by Trump that was likely racist, it was also an incredibly moronic thing to say.

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Behind North America’s Lowest Death Rate: A Doctor Who Fought Ebola


 Profile on Dr. Bonnie Henry a Canadian health official from British Columbia being praised for her campaign against Covid-19. Including fast distilling of information to doctors and health officials, quickly working up a test and testing procedures and commandeering nursing/care homes to stop the death rates there from spiraling out of control.

Henry is the first to caution against complacency. “We don’t know what is going to happen with this virus,” she said at a recent briefing, where she underscored how the province could quickly lose all the gains it’d made by easing restrictions too far. “We need to hold the line.”

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https://twitter.com/cherylbolen/status/1262479713030803458

Has he tested positive and is concealing it?

 I don't see any way that a White House doctor would prescribe him this for no reason at all.

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He said he asked the White House doctor if he could take it and the doctor said he could take it if he wanted to.

That's not the way White House doctors work. Their job is to maximize the health of the President and head off any problems. They're not going to randomly let a senior citizen take a drug like that like it's some harmless supplement or multivitamin. This story makes no sense. I think Trump is lying because he lies about everything and no other explanation really makes sense.

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I still think it is reasonable to say that covid is at most approximately the same threat to children as chicken pox prior to the development of a vaccine.  About 50 children died each year from chicken pox (death rate around 1 in 60,000), and several thousand were hospitalized.  But it was still seen as important to expose your child to the disease early because it was much more lethal in adults.

But this is a respiratory virus and something you can catch even if you're far enough away, making this a terrible idea in this case.

 And also a disease that is still relatively unknown. Nobody knows what the long term consequences are. Purposely exposing children to Covid-19 at this time is completely reckless.

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https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1263515455869857801?s=21

President Illiteracy strikes again

Orange faced babble strikes again!

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https://twitter.com/business/status/1262787624156254208?s=20

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U.S. will terminate its relationship with World Health Organization, Trump says

In the great game, China wants to win without fighting. Part of that involves changing existing global institutions to suit their needs, from the inside out, without provoking a response from everybody else. When we pull out of organizations like this, we open the door for them to do exactly that.

 Imagine a guy with an attention span that is described as being minutes long, who doesn't read, and who consistently changes any subject no matter what is being discussed back on himself...

 Imagine that guy trying to play Chess with a Chinese regime that thinks in terms of decades.

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 I went to the supermarket just now and while the last few weeks the majority of people were wearing mask, today all the employees still were but about half of the people shopping were not.

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This is a serious question: Why do we still have to wear masks still in stores?

The amount of people protesting and rioting nation and world wide make those masks now completely irrelevant. You’re not saving anyone at this point.

 Math. Every action taken to prevent or spread infection helps. It's not an all or nothing proposition. Pandemics are a math problem. If you never get infected, you don't infect the next two, who don't infect the next two and so on. Despite the many false proclamations that the virus is already prevalent in most of the population as you've seen repeated and falsely stated in this thread, we now know this is nonsense because large numbers are still being infected and dying. If we were at herd immunity this would not be the case.

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 The Federal response to this crisis has been horrifying.

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 People are not taking it seriously anymore. I'm still making very limited shopping trips and now besides the staff, I am one of maybe five people wearing a mask at the grocery store. Majority of essential workers in all stores I see are still wearing mask. Don't know if it's company policy or self-interest but it's good to see.