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America Needs R'hllor
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« on: June 14, 2022, 11:04:07 PM »

Not to be a hater but there's clearly a lot of cope among Democrats here. And a lot of fake uncertainty. The midterm environment is unfortunately set and it's not changing. On the biggest issues -- inflation, gas prices, and supply chain problems -- there's no relief coming before November. That's just how Biden's cookie has crumbled.

My optimistic take is that this outcome is good for Biden's odds in '24. He gets to run as the only thing stopping a strong far right government. And the potential for a strong economy in '24 is high. I have a lot of hope that the wider societal unrest we're experiencing will mellow by 2028, so perhaps this is enough to avoid the worst threats to rule of law.

I am no longer banking on the unrest ending. Conservative are relitigating pretty much every single culture war battle since the Depression.

And it's about damn time to. It's time the culture of the country is Conservative and we make sure it stays Conservative.

So, you want to modify the current state of American culture to fit more in line with your ideals? Doesn't sound very conservative to me.

Yeah, no, I'm not going to play the classic "heh, doesn't sound very conservative to me!" game. Conservatives have been too scared to wield power effectively and use it to their benefit (which is possible, by the way). Reagan really set the Conservative movement back decades by having a hands off government approach. It's time the Conservative movement leaves the amnesty loving gipper in the past and become a new movement, one unafraid to wield power for it's benefit, one unafraid to shape the government into something that benefits the movement. Conservatives let the liberals do that for +80 years so now, it's our time.

You and your your movement are an enemy of humanity and all that is good and you'll be defeated. Whenever I see a gay couple get married, or a trans friend happy about going on hrt, or a female friend laugh off a man for being a misogynist, or one of my straight friends suggesting he goes with me to the pride parade, there's a little corner in my mind thinking that you and people like you are losing this battle to maintain the social hierarchy that benefits you by oppressing us. Whether you get a win now and then and get to be happy for a bit when you manage to attain some evil goals, you're still pathetic bitter losers in the long term.
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America Needs R'hllor
Parrotguy
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« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2022, 11:23:22 PM »

Not to be a hater but there's clearly a lot of cope among Democrats here. And a lot of fake uncertainty. The midterm environment is unfortunately set and it's not changing. On the biggest issues -- inflation, gas prices, and supply chain problems -- there's no relief coming before November. That's just how Biden's cookie has crumbled.

My optimistic take is that this outcome is good for Biden's odds in '24. He gets to run as the only thing stopping a strong far right government. And the potential for a strong economy in '24 is high. I have a lot of hope that the wider societal unrest we're experiencing will mellow by 2028, so perhaps this is enough to avoid the worst threats to rule of law.

I am no longer banking on the unrest ending. Conservative are relitigating pretty much every single culture war battle since the Depression.

And it's about damn time to. It's time the culture of the country is Conservative and we make sure it stays Conservative.

So, you want to modify the current state of American culture to fit more in line with your ideals? Doesn't sound very conservative to me.

Yeah, no, I'm not going to play the classic "heh, doesn't sound very conservative to me!" game. Conservatives have been too scared to wield power effectively and use it to their benefit (which is possible, by the way). Reagan really set the Conservative movement back decades by having a hands off government approach. It's time the Conservative movement leaves the amnesty loving gipper in the past and become a new movement, one unafraid to wield power for it's benefit, one unafraid to shape the government into something that benefits the movement. Conservatives let the liberals do that for +80 years so now, it's our time.

You and your your movement are an enemy of humanity and all that is good and you'll be defeated. Whenever I see a gay couple get married, or a trans friend happy about going on hrt, or a female friend laugh off a man for being a misogynist, or one of my straight friends suggesting he goes with me to the pride parade, there's a little corner in my mind thinking that you and people like you are losing this battle to maintain the social hierarchy that benefits you by oppressing us. Whether you get a win now and then and get to be happy for a bit when you manage to attain some evil goals, you're still pathetic bitter losers in the long term.

You mean by actually conserving social structure and society that liberals like you have eroded for the past 80 years to the point where we're seeing people be unable to answer what a woman is, be for abortion until it's nearly the point of birth or something close to that, open borders, normalization of trans children and drag shows, the rise of depression among Women nationwide for the last few decades, the anti-white indoctrination of children, promotion of out-right lies in our education system, and the list can go on and on and on. Yeah, no, if being against that is wrong, then I do want to be right, mate. Hopefully, everything can return to normalcy once the liberalness of our culture has died out and we can have a more unified feeling of what it is to be an American, like how we felt in the 50s.

Yeah yeah, I know your new strategy is avoid being sincere and instead demonize us by using strawmen and things you made up. It's ok, we're not going anywhere. It's you who'll die out eventually. Why? Because we're fighting for simple freedom and existence, while you're fighting to oppress. Good luck in the culture wars to come, you're going to need it.
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« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2022, 08:12:57 AM »

*SNIP*

Yeah yeah, I know your new strategy is avoid being sincere and instead demonize us by using strawmen and things you made up. It's ok, we're not going anywhere. It's you who'll die out eventually. Why? Because we're fighting for simple freedom and existence, while you're fighting to oppress. Good luck in the culture wars to come, you're going to need it.
Strawmen? Literally everything he said is actually happening right now.

Nope, sorry! It's either a lie or something that you people twisted to demonize us.
Unable to answer what a woman is- lie, there's a clear answer- cis and trans women are both women
Trans kids- good, no one is advocating for the nonsense y'all are claiming is being done, conservatives should stop abusing children.
Drag shows- good, stop sexualizing everything, it's not our fault you're weird
Rise in women's depression- the most grotesque part of this, implies that women having more freedom and being slightly more protected from sexual harassment is the cause, when there are very clear factors, cherry picks data.
Anti-white indoctrination- lie
Promotion of lies in the education system- you're the lies

In essence: pathetic. Can't believe I wasted 10 minutes to type out a response for this lazy middle school level argument
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America Needs R'hllor
Parrotguy
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« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2022, 04:08:49 AM »

*SNIP*

Yeah yeah, I know your new strategy is avoid being sincere and instead demonize us by using strawmen and things you made up. It's ok, we're not going anywhere. It's you who'll die out eventually. Why? Because we're fighting for simple freedom and existence, while you're fighting to oppress. Good luck in the culture wars to come, you're going to need it.
Strawmen? Literally everything he said is actually happening right now.

Nope, sorry! It's either a lie or something that you people twisted to demonize us.
Unable to answer what a woman is- lie, there's a clear answer- cis and trans women are both women
Trans kids- good, no one is advocating for the nonsense y'all are claiming is being done, conservatives should stop abusing children.
Drag shows- good, stop sexualizing everything, it's not our fault you're weird
Rise in women's depression- the most grotesque part of this, implies that women having more freedom and being slightly more protected from sexual harassment is the cause, when there are very clear factors, cherry picks data.
Anti-white indoctrination- lie
Promotion of lies in the education system- you're the lies

In essence: pathetic. Can't believe I wasted 10 minutes to type out a response for this lazy middle school level argument

I’m not sure if you guys want to use the argument “drag shows” are good when trying to make an argument for your philosophical beliefs .

Also no both of you are wrong as conservatives have won on a good deal of social issues too including in the past 80 years so this whole everything moves in a left wing direction overtime is just inaccurate.


Also CRT has been implemented in public education so this is just a completely inaccurate talking point

Drag shows are fine, there's nothing inherently sexual about them. There's absolutely no reason for y'all to be so hateful about them, it's honestly just weird. I'm personally not a big enjoyer, but just let people express themselves.
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America Needs R'hllor
Parrotguy
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E: -4.13, S: -3.48

« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2022, 04:12:53 AM »

*SNIP*

Yeah yeah, I know your new strategy is avoid being sincere and instead demonize us by using strawmen and things you made up. It's ok, we're not going anywhere. It's you who'll die out eventually. Why? Because we're fighting for simple freedom and existence, while you're fighting to oppress. Good luck in the culture wars to come, you're going to need it.
Strawmen? Literally everything he said is actually happening right now.

Nope, sorry! It's either a lie or something that you people twisted to demonize us.
Unable to answer what a woman is- lie, there's a clear answer- cis and trans women are both women
Trans kids- good, no one is advocating for the nonsense y'all are claiming is being done, conservatives should stop abusing children.
Drag shows- good, stop sexualizing everything, it's not our fault you're weird
Rise in women's depression- the most grotesque part of this, implies that women having more freedom and being slightly more protected from sexual harassment is the cause, when there are very clear factors, cherry picks data.
Anti-white indoctrination- lie
Promotion of lies in the education system- you're the lies

In essence: pathetic. Can't believe I wasted 10 minutes to type out a response for this lazy middle school level argument

I’m not sure if you guys want to use the argument “drag shows” are good when trying to make an argument for your philosophical beliefs .

Also no both of you are wrong as conservatives have won on a good deal of social issues too including in the past 80 years so this whole everything moves in a left wing direction overtime is just inaccurate.


Also CRT has been implemented in public education so this is just a completely inaccurate talking point

Drag shows are fine, there's nothing inherently sexual about them. There's absolutely no reason for y'all to be so hateful about them, it's honestly just weird. I'm personally not a big enjoyer, but just let people express themselves.
Depends imo. Some drag shows are fine, but some videos I've seen have looked quite inappropriate for children.

You're right of course. Some drag shows are for adults and refer to sexual issues, but no one talks about sex to children. When I see conservatives convinced that drag artists reading children's books to kids is sexual, it's just weird of them.
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America Needs R'hllor
Parrotguy
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*****
Posts: 11,446
Israel


Political Matrix
E: -4.13, S: -3.48

« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2022, 04:47:14 AM »

*SNIP*

Yeah yeah, I know your new strategy is avoid being sincere and instead demonize us by using strawmen and things you made up. It's ok, we're not going anywhere. It's you who'll die out eventually. Why? Because we're fighting for simple freedom and existence, while you're fighting to oppress. Good luck in the culture wars to come, you're going to need it.
Strawmen? Literally everything he said is actually happening right now.

Nope, sorry! It's either a lie or something that you people twisted to demonize us.
Unable to answer what a woman is- lie, there's a clear answer- cis and trans women are both women
Trans kids- good, no one is advocating for the nonsense y'all are claiming is being done, conservatives should stop abusing children.
Drag shows- good, stop sexualizing everything, it's not our fault you're weird
Rise in women's depression- the most grotesque part of this, implies that women having more freedom and being slightly more protected from sexual harassment is the cause, when there are very clear factors, cherry picks data.
Anti-white indoctrination- lie
Promotion of lies in the education system- you're the lies

In essence: pathetic. Can't believe I wasted 10 minutes to type out a response for this lazy middle school level argument

I’m not sure if you guys want to use the argument “drag shows” are good when trying to make an argument for your philosophical beliefs .

Also no both of you are wrong as conservatives have won on a good deal of social issues too including in the past 80 years so this whole everything moves in a left wing direction overtime is just inaccurate.


Also CRT has been implemented in public education so this is just a completely inaccurate talking point

Drag shows are fine, there's nothing inherently sexual about them. There's absolutely no reason for y'all to be so hateful about them, it's honestly just weird. I'm personally not a big enjoyer, but just let people express themselves.
Depends imo. Some drag shows are fine, but some videos I've seen have looked quite inappropriate for children.

You're right of course. Some drag shows are for adults and refer to sexual issues, but no one talks about sex to children. When I see conservatives convinced that drag artists reading children's books to kids is sexual, it's just weird of them.
What I'm saying is I've seen videos online of kids at the sexual drag shows, and that should be illegal. If children are gonna be somewhere, people should be fully clothed.

Agreed, but it's exceedingly rare (and not worse than kids having to see sexualized commercials or going to races/sports games where there are barely-clothed women).
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