SB 117-41: Constructing a new Capitol District - Passed

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I believe the need for a new capital is there. Moving our capital would boost the economy and industry of a forgotten part in Atlasia. Moving it to a more central location, bordering Fremont, Lincoln and the South would also mean the government can be more ready & quick to act should a problem come to surface. I think this location as the three way junction point of the regions would also symbolically matter, and Nyman is getting a bit too crowded, this allows us to design the capital the way we want. It's also next to a natural river, the iconic Mississippi, which I see as important, and would boost economy & industry for cities alongside that river, both downstream and upstream.

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Let's have the debate and see what the people think and i'll accept what the majority wants.

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Funding issues, current residents of the area , and possible name (I'm not sure what would fit well for that though) aside I actually could get behind the idea, considering the South's attempt to secede earlier this year. Having the Capitol surrounded/located solely in one region as is the case now could place the government hostage to that region should they attempt to do such a thing in the future.

Name can be changed if that is the issue.

If people are bothered by the naming, we can change that. It's a bill i drafted a while ago and am just introducing now

lol

Senators Laki!

Not that you have really shown opposition to that.

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Funding issues, current residents of the area , and possible name (I'm not sure what would fit well for that though) aside I actually could get behind the idea, considering the South's attempt to secede earlier this year. Having the Capitol surrounded/located solely in one region as is the case now could place the government hostage to that region should they attempt to do such a thing in the future.

Name can be changed if that is the issue.

If people are bothered by the naming, we can change that. It's a bill i drafted a while ago and am just introducing now

lol

Senators Laki!

Not that you have really shown opposition to that.

To what, the nepotism bill? This bill? Check my posts in either thread. TIL if someone doesn't register all their complaints immediately then they support every part of the bill.

I like this concept, Laki. I think this bill actually stands a good chance of being improved through constructive amendments. I will offer an amendment when i think of a better name than the frankly toadying one you're using here.

I'll be friendly to that amendment.

The name was a joke.

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Funding issues, current residents of the area , and possible name (I'm not sure what would fit well for that though) aside I actually could get behind the idea, considering the South's attempt to secede earlier this year. Having the Capitol surrounded/located solely in one region as is the case now could place the government hostage to that region should they attempt to do such a thing in the future.

Name can be changed if that is the issue.

If people are bothered by the naming, we can change that. It's a bill i drafted a while ago and am just introducing now

lol

Senators Laki!

Not that you have really shown opposition to that.

To what, the nepotism bill? This bill? Check my posts in either thread. TIL if someone doesn't register all their complaints immediately then they support every part of the bill.

I like this concept, Laki. I think this bill actually stands a good chance of being improved through constructive amendments. I will offer an amendment when i think of a better name than the frankly toadying one you're using here.

Any update on this? Would it make sense to either just keep Nyman or perhaps leave the name to a subsequent referendum?

Nyman is for the old capital. Just leave it up for a subsequent referendum.

We can amend everything with "has to be named yet". And add a section with that a name shall be decided in a future referendum.

Would give people a reason to vote as well.

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Friendly

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This would probably stimulate Iowan economy.

Which grains would be the easiest and cheapest to import from towards the capital? Obviously the dairy states with Iowa on top. And food can also be transported from the capital towards Minneapolis area. Or exported to foreign countries via the Mississippi starting from the capital. It would boost economy a lot.

It's not much land that Iowa loses to the new capital and part of it is already urbanized in the town/city of Keokuk.

The new capital would easily link with Chicago/Milwaukee area, Minneapolis area, St. Louis Area, Des Moines, Kansas City, Cesar Rapids, Davenport, Fort Madison and Burlington as well as Peoria, Springfield and Indianapolis.

Besides the University of Des Moines would dramaticlaly increase in significance as it would be a good university for future government employees and specialize more into that direction.

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How much building a new capital would cost ?
This seems like such a big waste of money. It even needs to built a new airport!

Actually it does not have to given the Keokuk Municipal Airport falls within the boundaries of the new capitol district.

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Aye

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How much building a new capital would cost ?
This seems like such a big waste of money. It even needs to built a new airport!

Actually it does not have to given the Keokuk Municipal Airport falls within the boundaries of the new capitol district.

...This is a GA airport. Its runways are too small for any 737 variant to land. Upgrading this to a sufficient international facility is essentially the same as building one from scratch; almost nothing from the original airport will be usable here.

Well obviously this will require some investments but again



This is a location that could use a big airport and it would boost local economy.

And it's not like we can't afford it.

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All I can say, as the one person who cares about the budget, is:

Not bailing out whichever administration inevitably causes our surplus to vanish because "it's not like we can't afford" any of the 120 other things we'll be allocating boatloads of cash to in the meantime!

Well, the reasons why we have to move the capital have been stated before. Will this require a cost, yes. Obviously. And sure, we do have to be careful with budget

But the goal of a government should be to invest so that people / the government can even get wealthier and have bigger returns. No investment and no spending is stagnation.

We are running a surplus of $1044.28 Billion. What happens with that money? It should be spent. It's not healthy for an economy to have that much reserve. No government globally does that.

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All I can say, as the one person who cares about the budget, is:

Not bailing out whichever administration inevitably causes our surplus to vanish because "it's not like we can't afford" any of the 120 other things we'll be allocating boatloads of cash to in the meantime!

Well, the reasons why we have to move the capital have been stated before. Will this require a cost, yes. Obviously. And sure, we do have to be careful with budget

But the goal of a government should be to invest so that people / the government can even get wealthier and have bigger returns. No investment and no spending is stagnation.

We are running a surplus of $1044.28 Billion. What happens with that money? It should be spent. It's not healthy for an economy to have that much reserve. No government globally does that.

Yes, that is because no government globally (IRL, and almost the case in-game) could manage its fiscal affairs to save its life.

Personally I am amenable to this bill's concept, and it will certainly pass with or without my vote. The arguments Peace has made in favor of it, aside from Wulfric's, are uniformly pretty bad and I thought I'd point that out.

There is a follow-up bill: Build Big, Build Better that clarifies a few things and works out the concept or aspects of the concept in detail, though there will be potentially be more follow-up bills. It's a ton of work and it's hard to comprehensively put it in one bill. The Build Big, Build Better plan works out transport in more detail, a rough idea of city planning and the move of government buildings to the new capital.