SR 114-25: Proxy Vote Resolution (Amendment Vote)

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Aye

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Regarding these LOAs. I recall in the past once Napoleon posting a LOA for 4 months LOL.


If it happens, iltbere should be a Time limit

4 months???

Yes Nappy liked being facetious. When he was elected he announced he was going to take a LOA until the end of his term lol

He just wanted to get paid for his duties, his LOA enabled him to remain in office.

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As an FYI, i'm against the practice of proxy voting so i'll be voting Nay in any case.

Just out of principle, not now, not ever.

That doesn't have anything to do with Yankee specifically and I understand the reasons being given, but it's about the precedent that would possibly be set, and I do not think allowing proxy voting is a good idea.

I also don't think anyone could for instance even guess how I would vote. I believe the intention is good and is there, but I don't think anyone could vote the way I would vote, or debate/behave in the senate the way I would.

If someone is unable to be active for a long time, they should retire or be expelled from the senate which would trigger a special election or would enable the senator to be replaced by someone more active. In case of a shorter time, or a temporary period of inactivity, a LOA would suffice.

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This Senate really is a joke.

What have you actually done this session besides post drive-by insults like this one and vote whenever you feel like it? You're part of the problem.

You Peace clowns packed the queue so Labor Senators couldn't get their proposals heard for months. I thought I would have some adults to deal with but I have just had to put up with constant stupidity and childishness for months-the IQ of the game has plummeted since my presidency.

1. Peace did not deliberately pack the queue. I also anticipated a more active senate, and am disappointed in the way things happened this session, but that's not a partisan issue, it's more of a collective issue with circumstances not being in our favour as well and a general lack of activity during the mid session, some more than others. I've learnt about this, and did notice the issues admittely too late.

Aside of Pyro your side hasn't been very active at all. I haven't heard of Nerd and Blairite in quite a while. And you contribute little except for pointing out how stupid and retarded the current senate since the good old days of your presidency.

2. Secondly I consider

I have just had to put up with constant stupidity and childishness for months-the IQ of the game has plummeted since my presidency.

an insult and I demand an apology from your side.

3. Thirdly, I strongly urge to show you more respect towards your colleagues and fellow other users.

In the case of repeated offences, i'll introduce a motion to censure senators who refuse to behave in a normal, decent and respectful way, by repeatedly insulting others

In case the apology is provided and you refrain from that kind of behavior in the future, than all is good of course.

A little more modesty wouldn't hurt.

And I want to remind people that the forum rules still apply in the senate boards on Atlasia.

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Objection heard.

72 hours to vote. Please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.

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Nay

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Aye. I will not support proxy voting without specific reference to the senator's position.

By written communication, do we refer to a letter, and why is a Discord screenshot not allowed? Also, written communication can easily be falsified.

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Aye. I will not support proxy voting without specific reference to the senator's position.

By written communication, do we refer to a letter, and why is a Discord screenshot not allowed? Also, written communication can easily be falsified.

Written communication can refer to a typed letter or message.
I assume falsification of such documents would result in prompt expulsion from the Senate.

Senator WM pointed out that posting a screenshot of a private online community like Discord could be considered leaking, and may violate the rules of those private communities.

I don't think the letter idea is a good idea.

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Bumping

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Amendment fails to pass by 1-8-0-9.

Debate resumes

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Motioning for a final vote.

24 hours to object.

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A RESOLUTION
To allow proxy voting in the Senate under limited circumstances

Be it enacted by the Senate of the Republic of Atlasia assembled;

Section 1. Title

This legislation may be cited as the Proxy Vote Resolution.

Section 2. Proxy voting

Section 6 of the Official Senate Procedures and Rules for Operation (OSPR) is amended;

1.) Final Votes and veto overrides votes shall last for a maximum of 4 days (i.e. 96 hours). A final vote may be ended earlier than 96 hours:

a. If the vote has a majority to pass or fail, then the Presiding officer may call 24 hours for Senators to vote or change their votes.

b. If all Senators have voted and the result is unanimous for or against, then the Presiding Officer may end the vote immediately.

2.) If a bill has been vetoed, a Senator has 96 hours to motion for a veto override. A two-thirds majority of the members of the Senate is needed in order to override a veto.

3.) If a redraft is presented, the original sponsor shall have 96 hours after it is offered to accept the redraft or reject it and request an override. If the redraft is rejected by the Senate, the sponsor may then either motion to resume debate on the bill or withdraw the bill from the floor. If the original sponsor shall have left the chamber, the presiding officer shall allow for someone to assume sponsorship as with a normal bill, with the 96 hours commencing after it is completed.

4.) Veto Override and Redraft proceedings shall not be conducted in a slot and thus not subjected to any limits on the amount of legislation on the floor, but shall be conducted in their original threads.

5.) Proxy Votes shall be allowed under circumstances in which a senator has posted a Leave of Absence or similar message of absence so long as the Senator designated to vote as a proxy makes a strong effort in good faith to accurately represent the position of the Senator who is absent under special circumstances such as those necessitating a Leave of Absence. The proxy-voting Senator shall also honor any clear statement or implication of the affected Senator's wish to vote a certain way otherwise the proxy vote shall be invalid.

A final vote is now open. Senators, please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain.

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Nay

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Bump

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Amendment passes 6-3-0-9

Debate resumes

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Bumping this bill so the final vote may proceed soon.

Okay but technically i can't start a vote now given a new session just started and there is no elected PPT right now.

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A final vote is now open. Senators, please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain.

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Nay

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Bump

Extending final vote for 72 hours.

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Aye (6): LT, WM, UNL, MB, Spiral, Scott
Nay (6): Laki, AFE, Mongoose, Christian Man, Pericles, Adam Griffin
Abstain (0):
Did not vote (5): Muaddib, OSR, Nerd, Sirius, Reactionary (OriAr is not a senator)

VP Razze will have a tiebreaking vote. I'll inform the vicepresident of this.

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A final vote will open in 24 hours without objection.

A RESOLUTION
To allow proxy voting in the Senate under limited circumstances

Be it enacted by the Senate of the Republic of Atlasia assembled;

Section 1. Title

This legislation may be cited as the Proxy Vote Resolution.

Section 2. Proxy voting

Section 6 of the Official Senate Procedures and Rules for Operation (OSPR) is amended;

1.) Final Votes and veto overrides votes shall last for a maximum of 4 days (i.e. 96 hours). A final vote may be ended earlier than 96 hours:

a. If the vote has a majority to pass or fail, then the Presiding officer may call 24 hours for Senators to vote or change their votes.

b. If all Senators have voted and the result is unanimous for or against, then the Presiding Officer may end the vote immediately.

2.) If a bill has been vetoed, a Senator has 96 hours to motion for a veto override. A two-thirds majority of the members of the Senate is needed in order to override a veto.

3.) If a redraft is presented, the original sponsor shall have 96 hours after it is offered to accept the redraft or reject it and request an override. If the redraft is rejected by the Senate, the sponsor may then either motion to resume debate on the bill or withdraw the bill from the floor. If the original sponsor shall have left the chamber, the presiding officer shall allow for someone to assume sponsorship as with a normal bill, with the 96 hours commencing after it is completed.

4.) Veto Override and Redraft proceedings shall not be conducted in a slot and thus not subjected to any limits on the amount of legislation on the floor, but shall be conducted in their original threads.

5.) Proxy Votes shall be allowed under circumstances in which a senator has posted a Leave of Absence or similar message of absence so long as the Senator designated to vote as a proxy makes a strong effort in good faith to accurately represent the position of the Senator who is absent under special circumstances such as those necessitating a Leave of Absence. The proxy-voting Senator shall also honor any clear statement or implication of the affected Senator's wish to vote a certain way otherwise the proxy vote shall be invalid.

This final vote already took place.

Sorry, I thought that was an amendment vote.

Yeah given Mr. R is the OP, i can't change the thread title.