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« on: November 12, 2022, 09:46:25 PM »

Yes Iran is a horrible country but that doesn't mean that

1. Israël should get a free pass on everything it does, simply because Iran is worse. That is not a valid way of reasoning.

2. As long, no other country is invaded or directly attacked, i don't think one has the right to invade a nation or meddle into such affairs. Diplomacy is the only tool we have to deal with those issues.

If we use "military ways to deal with such affairs, we could as well invade half of the world, since a lot of nations, including some of our allies, are against human rights, like Qatar or Saudi Arabia for example. The only difference being that they are western allies and Iran is not.

That being said, I support the protests in Iran.
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« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2022, 12:00:46 PM »
« Edited: November 16, 2022, 12:15:42 PM by Laki »

https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/2022/11/15/check-executies-iran/

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/11/15/world/trudeau-deletes-false-tweet-iran-mass-executions-intl/index.html

Factchecked and reported by our national media as fake news spreading on social media.

I have a feeling PSOL and Laki won't be posting in this thread.  But they certainly will be reading.  <waves>  Maybe you can blame it on the sanctions?

Well this aged well... Calling me out for things i haven't even said, while it's literally fake news.

Maybe

1. factcheck whatever you say or post
2. don't assume things i've never said
3. don't assume criticism on Israël implies that i'm suddenly an iran ass-kisser.

-> this nonsense in this thread where we call randomly people out and spread fake news is literally textbook trump tactics!
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« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2022, 12:16:50 PM »

While this is poorly sourced, it's important to remember that the post-1979 Iranian regime executed tens of thousands of people in the 1980s, especially leftists, making them almost on par with Suharto in 1960s Indonesia in terms of mass murder of Communists. And they have continued to be one of the world leaders in state-sanctioned executions.

I'm also skeptical of the headline. Is there a better source?

Can we please only allow threads based on credible, accurate information? I am sure Iran will violently repress protests but I feel quite confident that Iranian parliament has not voted to execute tens of thousands of protesters?

see post above. Proven to be FAKE NEWS.
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« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2022, 12:19:18 PM »

The Islamic Republic seems to be in a race on whether it can prove its regime to be more ruthless and murderous than that of the Shah.  

It won that race back in 1979
Yeah. I think the Shah only killed around 400 people (excluding the 3,000 revolutionary deaths), so the Islamic Republic won that race by either the Summer of ‘79 or sometime in 1981 at the latest.

9/11 only killed about 2500 people.

And as being said this is a vast underestimation largely to support the western view that the Shah was a sacred human being. Don't forget that the entire country rebelled against the shah, including commies and even liberals.

Yes the conservatives seized power to install a dictatorship, but it weren't just religious conservatives who overthrew the Shah, it was the entire country.

I would suggest to inform yourself about the matter.

I don't know what they teach you in the US but i don't trust US schools since a lot of knowledge is forbidden that adress controversial topics and don't conclude with a "america is great" note.
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