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« on: November 09, 2022, 08:36:28 PM »
« edited: November 09, 2022, 09:02:57 PM by Laki »

Error: didn't realize we were voting on the amendment, in spoiler original content that i'll copy paste whenever the final vote is up.

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LAKISYLVANIA
Lakigigar
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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2022, 08:57:10 PM »

I didn't realize we were voting on the amendment.

I don't think the amendment is necessary, it's also worded in a quite complex way and I believe laws or acts should be simplified where possible. The double negative doesn't help the case.

Secondly, i don't see any useful link with gun rights or the right for an individual to bear arms and I don't want to bring up this topic if it isn't needed especially given it is a controversial and polarized topic. If needed, it can be adressed in a separate act. This is an act that should specifically focus on the fact that involuntary commitment is not desireable, regardless of any kind of conditions or preconditions. It always is undesireable.

So I vote nay to the amendment. (but i'll vote aye on the general bill as specified in the former post).
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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2022, 09:24:46 PM »

Aye

I strongly urge others to vote aye on this because personally i don't believe any other person can say with reason that some person has a psychiatric disorder and for that reason poses a hazard to himself, or to other people.

Involuntary committing someone is basically imprisoning someone without there being any sort of reason or process. Voting for this means that basically we can allow to randomly "lock people" us or take them from society because we say so, and this could be used to eliminate people one doesn't like, abuse sometimes vulnerable people or even as a way to purge an important person that one considers a threat to their own advances.

There's no objective way to determine someone is insane, and I believe every person has the right to take those decisions theirselves or to be defended by a lawyer on decisions like these, like if there's some kind of victim involved, but that would imply the normal processes that are used when it comes to crimes that cause victims.

I do believe it is is essential to vote for this to protect democracy, to protect human rights and to protect the liberal free-minded spirit of a said person.
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