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Mike88
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« Reply #75 on: June 19, 2023, 05:51:33 PM »

Latest poll by GPO:

44.5% ND (+0.6)
18.9% Syriza (-2.0)
12.4% PASOK (+0.2)
 6.9% KKE (nc)
 3.7% EL (+0.5)
 3.7% PE (-1.0)
 3.1% NIKI (-0.5)
 2.7% MeRA25 (+0.5)
  2.2% Spartans (new)
 1.9% Others (-0.5)

Poll conducted between 12 and 14 June 2023.

I guess ND would easily get over 160 seats in this scenario. #Kyriakoslide

Yes, 164 seats in this poll projection. A new one, from Rass polling firm, already puts ND at 166 seats.
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Mike88
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« Reply #76 on: June 23, 2023, 05:35:50 PM »

The campaign is now over.

Last campaign events/rallies of the major parties:

ND - New Democracy



Syriza



PASOK:



KKE:


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Mike88
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« Reply #77 on: June 25, 2023, 06:22:59 AM »

Since the winner is pretermined here is the first greek exit poll leak, the greek exit poll leaks are usually reliable about the greek exit poll, but greek exit polls are not reliable so beware.

Mitsotakis 42%
Tsipras 18%
PASOK 11.5%
Communists 8%
Bucket of small parties 2.5-3.5%

whats the point of this election, i mean it looks like exactly the same as a month ago.

In May, the electoral system was proportional with no seat bonus. Even so, with that system, ND almost won a majority. In today's election, there is a new electoral system with a seat bonus that is expected to give ND a comfortable majority.
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Mike88
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« Reply #78 on: June 25, 2023, 06:37:50 AM »
« Edited: June 25, 2023, 06:43:25 AM by Mike88 »

Turnout at 10:30, around 5 hours ago, was at 11.29%.

At 13:30, 29.13% of voters had cast a ballot, 2.39% less than at the same time in the May election.
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Mike88
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« Reply #79 on: June 25, 2023, 09:28:59 AM »

At 16:30, 40.77% of voters had already cast a ballot, a drop of 7.99% compared with the same hour in the May election.

Polls close in 1 hour and a half.
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Mike88
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« Reply #80 on: June 25, 2023, 09:30:34 AM »

Open TV live election coverage:


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Mike88
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« Reply #81 on: June 25, 2023, 10:39:58 AM »


The official channel of the Russian government in Greece.

The only one I could find with a live Youtube feed. :/
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Mike88
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« Reply #82 on: June 25, 2023, 10:45:33 AM »

Found Star TV election coverage also:


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Mike88
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« Reply #83 on: June 25, 2023, 10:50:24 AM »

10 minutes for polls to close and the first exit polls.

Official results page: https://ekloges.ypes.gr/current/v/home/en/
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Mike88
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« Reply #84 on: June 25, 2023, 11:00:38 AM »

Exit poll:

40.0-44.0% ND
16.1-19.1% Syriza
10.0-13.0% PASOK
    7.2-9.2% KKE
    4.0-6.0% Spartans
    2.3-4.3% EL
    2.3-4.3% NIKI
    2.0-4.0% PE
    2.0-4.0% MeRA25
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Mike88
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« Reply #85 on: June 25, 2023, 11:08:13 AM »

Exit poll seat projection:

158 ND
  45 Syriza
  29 PASOK
  21 KKE
  13 Spartans
    9 EL
    9 NIKI
    8 PE
    8 MeRA25
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Mike88
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« Reply #86 on: June 25, 2023, 11:15:41 AM »

Kapa Research exit poll: (+/- 1.5%)

42.5% ND
17.5% Syriza
12.0% PASOK
  8.0% KKE
  4.5% Spartans
  4.0% EL
  3.0% NIKI
  3.0% PE
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Mike88
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« Reply #87 on: June 25, 2023, 11:56:08 AM »

Updated exit poll:

39.0-42.0% ND
16.3-19.3% Syriza
11.2-13.2% PASOK
    6.5-8.5% KKE
    3.6-5.6% Spartans
    3.6-5.6% EL
    2.7-4.7% NIKI
    2.1-4.1% PE
    1.4-3.4% MeRA25
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Mike88
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« Reply #88 on: June 25, 2023, 11:59:56 AM »

23.7% counted:

40.5% ND
17.9% Syriza
13.6% PASOK
  6.9% KKE
  4.6% Spartans
  4.6% EL
  3.7% NIKI
  2.8% PE
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Mike88
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« Reply #89 on: June 25, 2023, 12:07:44 PM »

Interior Ministry final result projection:

40.5% ND, 157 seats
17.9% Syriza, 48
12.3% PASOK, 33
  7.6% KKE, 20
  4.7% Spartans, 12
  4.6% EL, 12
  3.6% NIKI, 10
  3.1% PE, 8
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Mike88
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« Reply #90 on: June 25, 2023, 12:17:56 PM »

Casablanca: "We'll always have Paris"

Syriza: "We'll always have Rodopi"
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Mike88
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« Reply #91 on: June 25, 2023, 12:56:02 PM »

Interesting that all the small right wing parties passed the threshold. Are they pretty similar on ideology?
From what I gather, Greek Solution are more aligned with the religious (Orthodox) right wing in Greece.. while Spartans has links with jailed Neo Nazis, formerly of the Golden Dawn.
I made a detailed post a few weeks ago:

The Greek Solution, aka Velopoulos, is the Greek Ancient Aliens party.
Nikki is the Televangelist party.
The Spartans are pure "300 movie" military Nazis, hence the name.

Isn't Greek Solution also deeply Russophile?
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Mike88
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« Reply #92 on: June 25, 2023, 01:01:30 PM »

82.53% reporting:

40.5% ND, 158 seats
17.8% Syriza, 47
12.1% PASOK, 32
  7.6% KKE, 20
  4.7% Spartans, 13
  4.5% EL, 12
  3.7% NIKI, 10
  3.1% PE, 8
  2.4% MeRA25, 0
  3.6% Others

52.0% Turnout
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Mike88
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« Reply #93 on: June 25, 2023, 01:05:04 PM »

Like all Conservative Parties in the West.

Well, I believe KKE is also Russophile as the Greek Solution is. And just like its Portuguese "copypaste" counterpart, PCP.
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Mike88
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« Reply #94 on: June 25, 2023, 01:23:36 PM »

The only """exciting""" thing about the count, once it became clear that PE is going to make it, is whether KKE will reach 8% or they are going to get stuck in 7,7% or something.

Nope. With 90% counted, KKE is stable at 7.61%.
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Mike88
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« Reply #95 on: June 25, 2023, 01:35:32 PM »

Mitsotakis just gave his victory speech by hailing the "safe majority" of ND and that he will put forward reforms immediately.

Varoufakis reacted to the results by saying that his party failed to convert the "bailout resistance" into a progressive coalition and that he's sorry that anger has turned into a "far-right movement".

No reaction yet from Tsipras.
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Mike88
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« Reply #96 on: June 25, 2023, 02:12:22 PM »

Tsipras just spoke. He didn't resign but said he said he's ready to face the "judgement" of party members and that a historic chapter for the party has ended. He added that the election result is bad for Greek society and that the work is now on for the 2024 EP elections.
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Mike88
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« Reply #97 on: June 25, 2023, 04:05:06 PM »


It didn't beat his May record by just 2 municipalities. Anyway, almost final results, 98% counted:

40.6% ND, 158 seats
17.8% Syriza, 48
11.9% PASOK, 32
  7.7% KKE, 20
  4.7% Spartans, 12
  4.5% EL, 12
  3.7% NIKI, 10
  3.2% PE, 8
  2.5% MeRA25, 0
  3.4% Others

52.8% Turnout
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Mike88
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« Reply #98 on: June 25, 2023, 04:14:59 PM »

It's interesting to see any large local shifts compared to last month.

The thing that pops up is that PASOK fell in most rural areas.
I guess that is because this time they did a largerly progressive campaign that was unpopular in rural areas, thus preventing them from overtaking Syriza.

Wasn't probably the low turnout? I mean, if PASOK did a more progressive campaign that would manifest itself in the more urban areas of Athens and Thessaloniki, but in reality PASOK polled badly in these areas, bellow 10% and in some districts even behind KKE.
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Mike88
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« Reply #99 on: June 25, 2023, 04:43:44 PM »

It's interesting to see any large local shifts compared to last month.

The thing that pops up is that PASOK fell in most rural areas.
I guess that is because this time they did a largerly progressive campaign that was unpopular in rural areas, thus preventing them from overtaking Syriza.

Wasn't probably the low turnout? I mean, if PASOK did a more progressive campaign that would manifest itself in the more urban areas of Athens and Thessaloniki, but in reality PASOK polled badly in these areas, bellow 10% and in some districts even behind KKE.
PASOK will never gain much in Athens no matter how progressive it is, the wounds of the economic crisis are deepest in the cities and they still blame PASOK for that.

The farmers in rural areas where less affected and stuck with PASOK the most, but they hate progressives.

PASOK's strategy this time was flawed, to beat SYRIZA for 2nd place they need to win the  rural areas first, because they are blocked out in urban areas.

Right. I would say that PASOK has probably time on their side. With Syriza still trapped under Tsipras and with little to show for, PASOK can "step by step" represent themselves as the alternative to ND.
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