Elizabeth Warren 2020 campaign megathread

[Hollywood]

Being 100… I’m already asking myself whether Warren’s campaign is over? 

First, Warren is not like Clinton for the simple fact that her finance director left the campaign as a result of Warren’s decision to swear off soliciting money from wealthy donors during the primaries.  Clinton would never have sworn off money for any reason.  Despite her principles, Warren raised $6 million in the first quarter of 2019, which is lower than Bernie’s $18 million and Kamala Harris’ $12 million.  Reports indicate that party insiders aren’t willing to help her anymore, which means she can’t rely on the Democrat establishment for any support.  She doesn’t seem to want it.  However, she isn’t the only outsider candidate, as Bernie certainly owns that title.  So how does she create separation by defining her campaign and distinguishing herself from the field?

I’ve thought long and hard about possible scenarios for a Warren nomination.  I simply don’t have an answer.  There’s no way.  I’m giving her a non-zero chance.  She appeals to policy wonks, but there are plenty of policy wonks running.  It feels like her campaign can be summed up in a few short sentences: “Please like me. I have policies.  I hate Trump.  I hate him more than anyone in the world.  I’ll give you anything you want if you’ll just be my friend.  Do you want money?  Listen.  I’m desperate.  Don’t make me beg.  Okay.  I’ll beg.”

She simply has no appeal, and she doesn’t have a voter base. She’s not going to win old people.  That demographic belongs to Biden and Sanders.  She doesn’t poll well with people that no her or in her own state. The young, old, women, men, black, white, Hispanic, etc., etc., etc., don’t like her, and at best, consider her Ralph Nader.  You know.  The presidential candidate that most closely resembled air.  You knew he was there but you couldn’t see or hear him.  Her negatives are too high, and they are rising in the Democratic primary.  She’s not even the second choice of any of the candidates.  I’m told by people that she will do well in the debates, but I’ve never been impressed with her persuasive skills.  The number one issue for Democrats is “winning” and she doesn’t have the personality to assure anyone of a win.

Moreover, she’s not even comfortable in her own skin, and she’s desperate for the approval of every political-identity group.  I think we can skip over the whole Native American thing, and lying about submitting forms in which she indicated that she was a Native American.  Let’s get to the part where she promised African Americans reparations.  Do I have to say any more?  She is trying to go so far left for Democrat votes that she has essentially become unappealing to one of her strongest potential voters – old Democrats. 

Therefore, it’s over.  She might go all the way with it, but it’s done.  I’m honestly trying to find one thing that could salvage her campaign, but there isn’t anything concrete.  Whether its policy or platitudes, she doesn’t have the qualities to create that atmosphere.  That memorable moment.  She just doesn’t have “it”. 

[Hollywood]

Being 100… I’m already asking myself whether Warren’s campaign is over? 

First, Warren is not like Clinton for the simple fact that her finance director left the campaign as a result of Warren’s decision to swear off soliciting money from wealthy donors during the primaries.  Clinton would never have sworn off money for any reason.  Despite her principles, Warren raised $6 million in the first quarter of 2019, which is lower than Bernie’s $18 million and Kamala Harris’ $12 million.  Reports indicate that party insiders aren’t willing to help her anymore, which means she can’t rely on the Democrat establishment for any support.  She doesn’t seem to want it.  However, she isn’t the only outsider candidate, as Bernie certainly owns that title.  So how does she create separation by defining her campaign and distinguishing herself from the field?

I’ve thought long and hard about possible scenarios for a Warren nomination.  I simply don’t have an answer.  There’s no way.  I’m giving her a non-zero chance.  She appeals to policy wonks, but there are plenty of policy wonks running.  It feels like her campaign can be summed up in a few short sentences: “Please like me. I have policies.  I hate Trump.  I hate him more than anyone in the world.  I’ll give you anything you want if you’ll just be my friend.  Do you want money?  Listen.  I’m desperate.  Don’t make me beg.  Okay.  I’ll beg.”

She simply has no appeal, and she doesn’t have a voter base. She’s not going to win old people.  That demographic belongs to Biden and Sanders.  She doesn’t poll well with people that no her or in her own state. The young, old, women, men, black, white, Hispanic, etc., etc., etc., don’t like her, and at best, consider her Ralph Nader.  You know.  The presidential candidate that most closely resembled air.  You knew he was there but you couldn’t see or hear him.  Her negatives are too high, and they are rising in the Democratic primary.  She’s not even the second choice of any of the candidates.  I’m told by people that she will do well in the debates, but I’ve never been impressed with her persuasive skills.  The number one issue for Democrats is “winning” and she doesn’t have the personality to assure anyone of a win.

Moreover, she’s not even comfortable in her own skin, and she’s desperate for the approval of every political-identity group.  I think we can skip over the whole Native American thing, and lying about submitting forms in which she indicated that she was a Native American.  Let’s get to the part where she promised African Americans reparations.  Do I have to say any more?  She is trying to go so far left for Democrat votes that she has essentially become unappealing to one of her strongest potential voters – old Democrats. 

Therefore, it’s over.  She might go all the way with it, but it’s done.  I’m honestly trying to find one thing that could salvage her campaign, but there isn’t anything concrete.  Whether its policy or platitudes, she doesn’t have the qualities to create that atmosphere.  That memorable moment.  She just doesn’t have “it”. 

Huh,a nearly spot on post...no kidding.

Thank you.  Some people have personalities that can carry a campaign, and Elizabeth Warren is at the opposite end of the spectrum. Her personality flaws for political campaigning permeates through her demeanor, body language, cadence, etc., and it's enough to sink her campaign.  Winning MA is a totally different animal than winning over the hearts and votes of swing state voters.  Some of them want to have a beer with their candidate (a ridiculous test for President), but I can't imagine three quarters of the country wanting to have a beer with her. 

[Hollywood]

Being 100… I’m already asking myself whether Warren’s campaign is over?  

First, Warren is not like Clinton for the simple fact that her finance director left the campaign as a result of Warren’s decision to swear off soliciting money from wealthy donors during the primaries.  Clinton would never have sworn off money for any reason.  Despite her principles, Warren raised $6 million in the first quarter of 2019, which is lower than Bernie’s $18 million and Kamala Harris’ $12 million.  Reports indicate that party insiders aren’t willing to help her anymore, which means she can’t rely on the Democrat establishment for any support.  She doesn’t seem to want it.  However, she isn’t the only outsider candidate, as Bernie certainly owns that title.  So how does she create separation by defining her campaign and distinguishing herself from the field?

I’ve thought long and hard about possible scenarios for a Warren nomination.  I simply don’t have an answer.  There’s no way.  I’m giving her a non-zero chance.  She appeals to policy wonks, but there are plenty of policy wonks running.  It feels like her campaign can be summed up in a few short sentences: “Please like me. I have policies.  I hate Trump.  I hate him more than anyone in the world.  I’ll give you anything you want if you’ll just be my friend.  Do you want money?  Listen.  I’m desperate.  Don’t make me beg.  Okay.  I’ll beg.”

She simply has no appeal, and she doesn’t have a voter base. She’s not going to win old people.  That demographic belongs to Biden and Sanders.  She doesn’t poll well with people that no her or in her own state. The young, old, women, men, black, white, Hispanic, etc., etc., etc., don’t like her, and at best, consider her Ralph Nader.  You know.  The presidential candidate that most closely resembled air.  You knew he was there but you couldn’t see or hear him.  Her negatives are too high, and they are rising in the Democratic primary.  She’s not even the second choice of any of the candidates.  I’m told by people that she will do well in the debates, but I’ve never been impressed with her persuasive skills.  The number one issue for Democrats is “winning” and she doesn’t have the personality to assure anyone of a win.

Moreover, she’s not even comfortable in her own skin, and she’s desperate for the approval of every political-identity group.  I think we can skip over the whole Native American thing, and lying about submitting forms in which she indicated that she was a Native American.  Let’s get to the part where she promised African Americans reparations.  Do I have to say any more?  She is trying to go so far left for Democrat votes that she has essentially become unappealing to one of her strongest potential voters – old Democrats.  

Therefore, it’s over.  She might go all the way with it, but it’s done.  I’m honestly trying to find one thing that could salvage her campaign, but there isn’t anything concrete.  Whether its policy or platitudes, she doesn’t have the qualities to create that atmosphere.  That memorable moment.  She just doesn’t have “it”.  

Huh,a nearly spot on post...no kidding.

Thank you.  Some people have personalities that can carry a campaign, and Elizabeth Warren is at the opposite end of the spectrum. Her personality flaws for political campaigning permeates through her demeanor, body language, cadence, etc., and it's enough to sink her campaign.  Winning MA is a totally different animal than winning over the hearts and votes of swing state voters.  Some of them want to have a beer with their candidate (a ridiculous test for President), but I can't imagine three quarters of the country wanting to have a beer with her.  

This is ridiculous. Did you see her town hall? She gets positive reactions from crowds everywhere she goes.

I'm not using a crowd of Elizabeth Warren fans at a town hall as a barometer of her impact on average voters.  That would be ridiculous.  I'm only giving you my impressions of her.  If you're a fan, then keep supporting her.  

Lying Ted, crooked Hillary, little Marco, low energy, etc.  Trump is going to express what I've just written in one word, and then it's going to stick.  I can already foresee the way voters are going to react and perceive Warren. 

[Hollywood]

I find Elizabeth Warren to be one of the more interesting candidates in the Democratic Primary, because she is the prototypical beta personality totally unable to overcome her lack of leadership quality.  This argument over whether or not going on Fox News is a prudent action is just another example in a long list evidence to support my argument. 

In the context of a front runner, it makes sense to avoid Fox News.  You might be exposed as less competent than the other candidate.  Democrat nominees and front runners tend to do so when they need to win independent voters, which comes off desperate.  In my opinion, a candidate doesn’t just look small and wimpy by avoiding Fox News.  That candidate is small and wimpy – a person with very little confidence, class or charisma.

At this point, there is nothing to lose for every other candidate in the race.  Independents are allowed to vote in the Democratic Primary, and the largest pool of independent voters watch Fox News.  There is no reason to vote in the Republican primary, and voters who tend to vote for a candidate in a primary will surely vote for that same party and candidate in the general election.  Of course, if you select a corrupt, election rigging, criminal POS like Hillary Clinton, you shouldn’t expect other people to vote for your candidate over a person that wears their ‘deplorable’ qualities.

Elizabeth Warren refusing to take the so-called ‘Fox News Challenge” just demonstrates the accuracy of initial viewpoint of her candidacy.  That she has zero self-confidence, and embodies nearly every bad quality people psychologically and socially associate with poor leadership.  She’s smart.  Has a plan.  Is totally adherent to the party establishment and the race-baiting Loony Tune.  Where is this getting her?   The whole Native American scandal is a secondary concern after her personality, because a guy like Joe Biden could skirt around it with his political personality.  Elizabeth Warren and her supports may not now it yet, but Warren is running for Secretary of Treasury for the same exact reason she fears talking to the people she most fervently disagrees with on Fox News. 

[Hollywood]

I find Elizabeth Warren to be one of the more interesting candidates in the Democratic Primary, because she is the prototypical beta personality totally unable to overcome her lack of leadership quality.  This argument over whether or not going on Fox News is a prudent action is just another example in a long list evidence to support my argument. 

In the context of a front runner, it makes sense to avoid Fox News.  You might be exposed as less competent than the other candidate.  Democrat nominees and front runners tend to do so when they need to win independent voters, which comes off desperate.  In my opinion, a candidate doesn’t just look small and wimpy by avoiding Fox News.  That candidate is small and wimpy – a person with very little confidence, class or charisma.

At this point, there is nothing to lose for every other candidate in the race.  Independents are allowed to vote in the Democratic Primary, and the largest pool of independent voters watch Fox News.  There is no reason to vote in the Republican primary, and voters who tend to vote for a candidate in a primary will surely vote for that same party and candidate in the general election.  Of course, if you select a corrupt, election rigging, criminal POS like Hillary Clinton, you shouldn’t expect other people to vote for your candidate over a person that wears their ‘deplorable’ qualities.

Elizabeth Warren refusing to take the so-called ‘Fox News Challenge” just demonstrates the accuracy of initial viewpoint of her candidacy.  That she has zero self-confidence, and embodies nearly every bad quality people psychologically and socially associate with poor leadership.  She’s smart.  Has a plan.  Is totally adherent to the party establishment and the race-baiting Loony Tune.  Where is this getting her?   The whole Native American scandal is a secondary concern after her personality, because a guy like Joe Biden could skirt around it with his political personality.  Elizabeth Warren and her supports may not now it yet, but Warren is running for Secretary of Treasury for the same exact reason she fears talking to the people she most fervently disagrees with on Fox News. 

All three premises for my conclusion?  Singular?  Geez.  I made so many arguments. Okay you’re next paragraph states that I’ve made many conclusions.   I’ll simplify by saying my ultimate conclusion is that Elizabeth Warren should attend a town hall on Fox News. 

Let’s start in order with Independent Voters.  I disagree with many of your premises supporting your conclusion that it is absurd to reach independents utilizing the Fox News platform.  First off, I’ve seen a lot of left-wing audience members during the town halls, and the disagreeing boos from an unfavorable audience members isn’t a reason to not attend a Fox News debate.  Side note, if someone is undecided or independent, they might actually decide and become partisan from a Fox News debate.  Trump had to go through four or five debates despite unfavorable audiences and monitors.  That takes strength.  People respect it.  Second, these Fox News town halls don’t just reach the 10% and 35% of Independents that make up their viewer profile, they receive numerous views on Youtube, including positive coverage from democrat, liberal and socialist leaning channels.  The Bernie Sanders town hall received the most television viewers of the year at 2.6 million, 1.3 million views on the Fox News Youtube channel, received millions of views from people mostly positive analysis on other Youtube Channels, and gave him a two point that took away points from Biden.  Then Biden announced and knocked down everyone’s poll numbers.  Going on Fox News probably gave Bernie Sanders tens of millions of views across a variety of platforms, and made him seem more mainstream.  Thus, supporting my conclusion that Elizabeth Warren should attend a Fox news town hall. 

Well your first criticism of my premise about independents was absurdly inaccurate by every standard aside other than far-left dogma that going on Fox News is always a bad idea.  Biden hopes all the candidates makes the same mistake as Warren, because he’s already getting all the center-left Democrats.  He doesn’t have to do anything. 

Back on topic.  Every network is a propaganda network.  Were you just born?  Everybody in the country knows that every network is a propaganda channel.  If there motivation is to tear down a candidate that does well in the polls, then Elizabeth Warren has nothing to lose cause she isn’t doing well speaking to the far-left.  Also, every channel (CNN, MSNBC, and Fox) when they started to turn up the heat on Donald Trump in 2016 stated that they were grilling him due to his poll numbers.  Every candidate should face this type of adversity, especially in the primary.  Especially when they are only polling at 1-10%.  This criticism was silly and you can do better.  Actually, you made me realize that Elizabeth Warren has very little street smarts.  Like she’s a moron for not going on Fox News.  I’m not even tackling your last argument, because your second point was so nonsensical.  It’s just the same condescending, high-and-mighty trite that Fox News is propaganda.  CNN is not propaganda?  Total BS.  The first second they start propagandizing a war all you Democrat BSers will piss and moan.  The very first second they support a position you don’t like you’ll berate them for propagandizing an issue.  I’ve seen it time and time again, and then when they propagandize an issue you support, then it’s not propaganda.  I really can’t get paste this point.  It doesn’t make sense. It’s not factual, but at least you were making points in regards to my first premise. 


Now to your conclusion.  She has no good reasons.  She has tens of millions of good reasons to go on Fox News.  If she does well she will receive positive benefits she currently cannot access, and Biden wins all those votes should have received.  She loses out on a chance to win against the conservative media – Fox News.  However, if she does bad, at least you know she has less Presidential qualities than Bernie Sanders, which is to stay cool under fire.  Supporting her idiotic rhetoric about Fox News (which is based on her fear of confronting the Native American story is really a testament to how many Democrats have completely forgotten or ignore the leadership qualities they were once blessed with during Obama’s reign.  Even Obama went on Fox News. 

Given what things?  Okay.  If Elizabeth Warren supporters want to keep riding the train into obscurity, don’t go on Fox News.  In a poll of 3,000 voters by Rasmussen, her negatives were at 45% and her positives were at 45%.  She can only must 46%.  Why?  The fact that so many people are undecided when it comes to her means they are thinking about a third candidate or voting for Trump, which means she loses Ohio and Florida and North Carolina, and once again, Democrats are left with that terrible feeling in the pit of their stomachs.  That realization broadcasted live on television that is like porn to so many conservatives, “hey are we going to lose F-ing Pennsylvania”.  What could she have done to win?  People that live in fear will always regret not jumping in the fray.  That's Elizabeth Warren.  That is her character. 

[Hollywood]

Who cares?

Warren is not going to be the nominee anyway.

She damaged herself when she failed to tell the truth about her identity.

She may have some good ideas, but she will never be president.

The sad part about Elizabeth Warren is that she could be President.  She could overcome the Native American issue.  We just saw another candidate overcome "grab'm by the P####", and another one that one despite being part of anti-American church with a middle name like Hussein.   Bush was a cheerleader.  Treasury Secretary Elizabeth Warren does not have the mental fortitude to win the Presidency.  She doesn't give herself the chance.

[Hollywood]

I'm SO HAPPY Elizabeth is attending the Native American Forum. I was nervous her team wasn't going to make it happen: https://newsmaven.io/indiancountrytoday/news/senators-warren-and-klobuchar-join-native-american-presidential-forum-0IX3zMW8Ik-hp3G-ciAscQ/

Trump is starting to focus on lumping Elizabeth with Bernie and the socialist label. I'm wondering if that's because he's noticing that the Pocahontas label is going nowhere with the media. How do you guys think this will play out?

The fact that she has Deb Halland's endorsement really gives Elizabeth a lot of credibility on Native issues, although it's still a controversial endorsement among some Native communities and activists. She also has a tight relationship with Jefferson Keel, the President of the National Congress of American Indians. I'll bet tribal leaders will start to endorse Warren in the coming months.

Do you think having those endorsements will help counteract GOP and Trump talking points on her DNA test and heritage claims?

The Republicans and Trump are not the problem.  It's the DNC.  They want her to win just as much as they want Bernie Sanders.  I wonder if Democrats have ever imagined the possibility that DNC officials and other Democrat candidates have intentionally and anonymously release stories for Fox News to champion against certain Democrats.  A lot of extremely convenient attacks have been leveled against Democrat candidates, and there's no doubt in my mind that they are strategically leveled against Democrats as if ordered by other Democrat candidates.  Just putting it out there.  Then you have the attacks against Biden for being touchy.  CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News seemed to have just as many guests defending or downplaying incident as they had criticizing Biden.  

All I'm saying is that you Warren and Sanders supporters need to watch those pr##ks just as scrupulously as you watch Trump.  To not do so is like sheep going to a barbershop owned and operated by wolves.

[Hollywood]

I'm SO HAPPY Elizabeth is attending the Native American Forum. I was nervous her team wasn't going to make it happen: https://newsmaven.io/indiancountrytoday/news/senators-warren-and-klobuchar-join-native-american-presidential-forum-0IX3zMW8Ik-hp3G-ciAscQ/

Trump is starting to focus on lumping Elizabeth with Bernie and the socialist label. I'm wondering if that's because he's noticing that the Pocahontas label is going nowhere with the media. How do you guys think this will play out?

The fact that she has Deb Halland's endorsement really gives Elizabeth a lot of credibility on Native issues, although it's still a controversial endorsement among some Native communities and activists. She also has a tight relationship with Jefferson Keel, the President of the National Congress of American Indians. I'll bet tribal leaders will start to endorse Warren in the coming months.

Do you think having those endorsements will help counteract GOP and Trump talking points on her DNA test and heritage claims?

The Republicans and Trump are not the problem.  It's the DNC.  They want her to win just as much as they want Bernie Sanders.  I wonder if Democrats have ever imagined the possibility that DNC officials and other Democrat candidates have intentionally and anonymously release stories for Fox News to champion against certain Democrats.  A lot of extremely convenient attacks have been leveled against Democrat candidates, and there's no doubt in my mind that they are strategically leveled against Democrats as if ordered by other Democrat candidates.  Just putting it out there.  Then you have the attacks against Biden for being touchy.  CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News seemed to have just as many guests defending or downplaying incident as they had criticizing Biden.  

All I'm saying is that you Warren and Sanders supporters need to watch those pr##ks just as scrupulously as you watch Trump.  To not do so is like sheep going to a barbershop owned and operated by wolves.

This is crazy talk. Democratic party officials like Warren 1000 times more than Bernie.  Warren is an actual Democrat and doesn't turn loyalty to the party into a wedge issue for the base or make up stupid conspiracy theories for personal political gain.

I'm not saying they don't prefer Bernie over Warren.  If that's what you thought I was implying than I should have been more clear.  The DNC supports Biden and Harris over Warren and Bernie.  It's not a matter of degree.  It's just noticeable from the way the establish journos and Dems discuss her as opposed to Warren.  Warren is calling for some drastic changes that I don't think the establishment wants to completely get behind.  Candidates like Biden and Harris seem to represent the status quo of the Democrat Party.  That's all I'm really saying.  I think the Democrat Party sees someone like Biden as the key to winning back dominate control of the House and Senate. 

[Hollywood]

I'm SO HAPPY Elizabeth is attending the Native American Forum. I was nervous her team wasn't going to make it happen: https://newsmaven.io/indiancountrytoday/news/senators-warren-and-klobuchar-join-native-american-presidential-forum-0IX3zMW8Ik-hp3G-ciAscQ/

Trump is starting to focus on lumping Elizabeth with Bernie and the socialist label. I'm wondering if that's because he's noticing that the Pocahontas label is going nowhere with the media. How do you guys think this will play out?

The fact that she has Deb Halland's endorsement really gives Elizabeth a lot of credibility on Native issues, although it's still a controversial endorsement among some Native communities and activists. She also has a tight relationship with Jefferson Keel, the President of the National Congress of American Indians. I'll bet tribal leaders will start to endorse Warren in the coming months.

Do you think having those endorsements will help counteract GOP and Trump talking points on her DNA test and heritage claims?

The Republicans and Trump are not the problem.  It's the DNC.  They want her to win just as much as they want Bernie Sanders.  I wonder if Democrats have ever imagined the possibility that DNC officials and other Democrat candidates have intentionally and anonymously release stories for Fox News to champion against certain Democrats.  A lot of extremely convenient attacks have been leveled against Democrat candidates, and there's no doubt in my mind that they are strategically leveled against Democrats as if ordered by other Democrat candidates.  Just putting it out there.  Then you have the attacks against Biden for being touchy.  CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News seemed to have just as many guests defending or downplaying incident as they had criticizing Biden.  

All I'm saying is that you Warren and Sanders supporters need to watch those pr##ks just as scrupulously as you watch Trump.  To not do so is like sheep going to a barbershop owned and operated by wolves.

This is crazy talk. Democratic party officials like Warren 1000 times more than Bernie.  Warren is an actual Democrat and doesn't turn loyalty to the party into a wedge issue for the base or make up stupid conspiracy theories for personal political gain.

I'm not saying they don't prefer Bernie over Warren.  If that's what you thought I was implying than I should have been more clear.  The DNC supports Biden and Harris over Warren and Bernie.  It's not a matter of degree.  It's just noticeable from the way the establish journos and Dems discuss her as opposed to Warren.  Warren is calling for some drastic changes that I don't think the establishment wants to completely get behind.  Candidates like Biden and Harris seem to represent the status quo of the Democrat Party.  That's all I'm really saying.  I think the Democrat Party sees someone like Biden as the key to winning back dominate control of the House and Senate. 

Oh, yeah, well I agree that most of the party establishment sees Warren and Bernie as extreme, unelectable, and likely to hurt down-ballot races.

I don't think Warren needs to "look out for the DNC" like there's going to be some big conspiracy to rig the election and steal the nomination from her.  Despite the neverending internet gaslighting, that did not happen in 2016 and is not going to happen in 2020.

Of course, if the DNC does something shockingly nefarious like sending private e-mails to each other after the election complaining that she hasn't dropped out yet, I'll eat my words.

Then I'm almost in total agreement, maybe. 

There will kind of be a conspiracy between some I think.  Okay scratch that.  Collusion. The change for Warren from positive coverage to negative coverage will be immediately palpable on every mainstream news station from Fox to MSNBC once she's in striking distance of Biden.  It's kind of like when the left-wing media was in love with McCain and Romney during the Republican primary and then totally scorched them as soon as they won the nomination.  I think for establishment Democrats, they'll wait until either Sanders or Warren starts making headway.  Then they'll cut which ever one down like the axe Trump used on that huckleberry Bush.  I doubt there will be private e-mails to help you make sense of it all like in 2016.  Trump can only call Putin for so many favors.  The great thing about it is it confirmed my beliefs about the way the Republican and Democrat party operate in unfairly ignoring or destroying the candidates of non-noble decent.

Okay I just read this post. I sound even more conspiratorial and creepy than my last post.  I'm gonna open a shade cause sitting in total darkness is clearly not healthy.