The Next DNC Chair: TOM PEREZ WINS, makes Ellison deputy chair

[ApatheticAustrian]

well, since you are an australian and i am an austrian, this debate is highly academical anyway, but i am pretty sure, democrats can combine a warren-wing approach for the economy with their other goals without freaking out their new sub-urban voters. i would just argue, that the more progressive wing of the party shouldn't try to actively alienate the other wings...this has hold back the republicans for several cycles now and it only works with a party which has decided to run on an anti-system, anti-media, anti-"education" platform.

otherwise..... if you have been an avowed bernie voter and think the DNC has played foul, you can ofc make your choice connected to those relevations but....

1) if bernie himself thinks defeating trump was more important, i think he would be the highest authority on that question.

2) i would hate to think, someone would have wanted to "play" me to reach their own goals.

[ApatheticAustrian]

i obviously don't have any quarrels if the sanders people are able to win most votes anyway.

i just would really really hate of groups are targeting middle-of-the-road center-democrats for purity.

[ApatheticAustrian]

We can't get rid of big money in politics until there is a liberal majority in the supreme court. M

yeah...and the republicans did understand that and held their noses.

especially funny if you think, that most big liberal donors wanted to decrease their own influence and the little guys questioned the purity.

[ApatheticAustrian]

Hillary spent twice as much as Trump and lost. It wasn't the money, it was the candidate.

in a presidential race - and in some years, agreed....under the assumption, the money was spent in an intelligent way.

[ApatheticAustrian]

that's why we can't have nice things.

[ApatheticAustrian]

perez is also a nightmare/boogeyman for many republicans.

that he is seen as kind of a centrist shill says a lot about change.

[ApatheticAustrian]

having a hard-fought contest isn't a sign against "unification".

you can try different roads to the same goal.

[ApatheticAustrian]

"We don't need Bernie Bros to win! But we will blame them if we lose"

how is that any different from the opinion that all eh "centrists" (whatever) must be switched?

[ApatheticAustrian]

When she says clickers I think The Last of Us.

Watch us nominate Cuomo or Booker in 2020. Never learn.

the republicans are a really bad example regarding this question.

[ApatheticAustrian]

i would stop being a bush republican if trump became the nominee and someone like tulsi would make me question my democratic values but.....come one, how is cuomo different than dole/mccain for ideological republicans?

[ApatheticAustrian]

If no one else has sufficient appeal from the black community, this would be very possible if she sweeps the south again. Fortunately, I don't believe she's interested in trying again.

at some point, shame and hate is trouncing all feelings of either 1) entitlement or 2) patriotism.

[ApatheticAustrian]

if elllison wins, it would be legit for the perez camp to call this thing rigged!11!1!!

[ApatheticAustrian]

kander has had the bad luck to run in a hard state in a wave year.......

[ApatheticAustrian]

i know this opinion isn't popular, but......either way, this election shows the "new" movement of the democratic party.

[ApatheticAustrian]

does anyone really think, a job done by wasserman-schulz and michael steele/reince priebus can be sooo important/essential for the soul of a party?

best you can do is being an effective organizer.

[ApatheticAustrian]

seems like a healthy result.

think no one could call this a clear "mandate".

[ApatheticAustrian]

great result, sign of unity.

if they can get along.... #getoverit

[ApatheticAustrian]

An olive branch means absolutely nothing. But please delude yourselves, we'll need the full eight years.

besides trolling...you are so afraid of - not my words - a(nother) socialist black muslim to crush your president?

[ApatheticAustrian]

1 year earlier - through dave weigel -



time of our life.

[ApatheticAustrian]

real victory isn't imho domination but correction.

force others to come closer to YOUR point of view.

[ApatheticAustrian]

if reince priebus is meant to be a good example for winning, it means be ready to kill all your values for victory.

i am not so sure this is what the perez-critics would wish for.

[ApatheticAustrian]

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/835594031870664704


this becomes a commong thing now, i guess....remember when WL used to be about transparency and not politics?

[ApatheticAustrian]

the trick is to increase the bubble without bursting it.

[ApatheticAustrian]

ttp is now a chinese treaty, which is going to kill us influence in half the world, forget it.

[ApatheticAustrian]

stalin trying to kill other lefties in the middle of the spain civil war wasn't so successful....
/hyperbolewithoutnazis