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« on: January 04, 2020, 10:28:09 AM »

I'm leaning against.

Prison, in addition to punishment, serves the purpose of keeping criminals who are potentially dangerous away from the public and so escaping is not just against the law but also could be a danger to the public.

We know that any approach based solely on punishment and control, that doesn't attempt to understand what the root causes are and how they can be addressed is not going to be successful or humane; and it is perfectly natural that someone would want to escape from prison. So I understand the principle and am fairly open minded.

I'll have to do more research before I can commit to supporting or opposing this bill.
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E: -4.42, S: 1.82

« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2020, 03:01:43 PM »


I believe we are supposed to be voting on whether or not to table.
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« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2020, 03:02:56 PM »

My reading of the federal law on this subject is that you can currently get a 5 year sentence for escaping; I'd be open to reducing this with very specific circumstances & tight rules- along with trying to fix the issues that other people identified.

Rather than tabling this I'm happy to amend & then move to a final vote where people can vote it down (and requires less votes to fail then it does to table iirc)

I think this would be reasonable.
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Political Matrix
E: -4.42, S: 1.82

« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2020, 03:27:21 PM »


I believe we are supposed to be voting on whether or not to table.

The tabling motion has not been seconded yet I believe so no vote on that. I would personally prefer to see an amendment first anyway.

It was seconded by RC, but I agree with you that we should wait for the amendment.
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E: -4.42, S: 1.82

« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2020, 02:24:11 PM »

3 years is, I think, a reasonable punishment for escaping and will vote for the bill in this form.
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E: -4.42, S: 1.82

« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2020, 09:30:29 AM »

Motion for a final vote
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E: -4.42, S: 1.82

« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2020, 05:02:47 PM »

Aye
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