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Question: American citizens: where do you stand on Israel?
#1
1st Choice: 2 states... 2nd Choice: Israel is Democractic... 3rd Choice: Israel is Jewish
 
#2
1st Choice: 2 states... 2nd Choice: Israel is Jewish... 3rd Choice: Israel is Democratic
 
#3
1st Choice: Israel is Democratic... 2nd Choice: 2 states... 3rd Choice: Israel is Jewish
 
#4
1st Choice: Israel is Democratic... 2nd Choice: Israel is Jewish.. 3rd Choice: 2 states
 
#5
1st Choice: Israel is Jewish... 2nd Choice: Israel is Democratic.. 3rd Choice: 2 states
 
#6
1st Choice: Israel is Jewish... 2nd Choice: 2 states.. 3rd Choice: Israel is Democratic
 
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FairBol
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« on: January 01, 2017, 06:48:19 AM »

The two state solution is outdated. Large majorities of Palestinians believe terrorism against Israel is acceptable. The violence isnt about settlements or borders. The people stabbing Jews and blowing themselves up to kill Jews and fire rockets into Israel to kill Jews, they aren't really motivated by the settlements. Not motivated by want for statehood. The bottom line is they really don't like Jewish people and think they should leave or die. Even the political Palestinians, who try to treat the Temple Mount like it's not part of Israel, know this. They just dog whistle about "1967 borders" because they Israel will never cooperate. It would be very damaging to their authority to actually cement the existence of Israel in an agreement.

Israel is a Jewish nation. Israel will not be safe with a UN-backed Palestinian terror-state on its borders that would no support and abet the anti-Semitic scum of the earth within their new country.

Well said, Potus.  The only thing I would add to this is that the US' betrayal of Israel in the UN is shameful at best, and disgusting at worst.  I guess it shouldn't be totally shocking, though....what else would you expect from Obama, not to mention John Kerry? And oh BTW....John Kerry is a traitorous and treasonous piece of you-know-what.  If you don't believe me, ask the people of South Vietnam, or the many American soldiers that he ran down in front of the enemy (at a "peace conference" in Vietnam back in the 70s).  I have no respect for Kerry...after January 20th, I hope he goes away, never to be heard from in public again. 

PS: If you don't like what I have to say about John Kerry, "bite me" (thanks Eric Bischoff). 
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« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2017, 02:08:12 PM »
« Edited: January 01, 2017, 02:11:53 PM by FairBol »

The two state solution is outdated. Large majorities of Palestinians believe terrorism against Israel is acceptable. The violence isnt about settlements or borders. The people stabbing Jews and blowing themselves up to kill Jews and fire rockets into Israel to kill Jews, they aren't really motivated by the settlements. Not motivated by want for statehood. The bottom line is they really don't like Jewish people and think they should leave or die. Even the political Palestinians, who try to treat the Temple Mount like it's not part of Israel, know this. They just dog whistle about "1967 borders" because they Israel will never cooperate. It would be very damaging to their authority to actually cement the existence of Israel in an agreement.

Israel is a Jewish nation. Israel will not be safe with a UN-backed Palestinian terror-state on its borders that would no support and abet the anti-Semitic scum of the earth within their new country.

Well said, Potus.  The only thing I would add to this is that the US' betrayal of Israel in the UN is shameful at best, and disgusting at worst.  I guess it shouldn't be totally shocking, though....what else would you expect from Obama, not to mention John Kerry? And oh BTW....John Kerry is a traitorous and treasonous piece of you-know-what.  If you don't believe me, ask the people of South Vietnam, or the many American soldiers that he ran down in front of the enemy (at a "peace conference" in Vietnam back in the 70s).  I have no respect for Kerry...after January 20th, I hope he goes away, never to be heard from in public again.  

PS: If you don't like what I have to say about John Kerry, "bite me" (thanks Eric Bischoff).  

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One can support Isreal's right to exist, while opposing the Israeli state as of current, and support a two state solution.

First off, Israel has taken military actions in self-defense.  Don't try that BS with me.  Second...says the guy who has a Fidel Castro quote in his sig, LOL.  
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« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2017, 02:19:36 PM »

Vietnam war was a disaster. It got many US people killed & it butchered millions of people in Vietnam, that country turned communist & a huge section of Vietnam hated the US & most countries looked at the war in a negative sense. I don't know how can people justify killing!

Even Bernie Sanders was an objector to that disaster of a war. And a Democrat LBJ who swept to victory in a landslide couldn't even run for re-election due to sinking popularity due to the Vietnam.

LBJ's (a Democrat with War on Poverty & Medicare/Medicaid/Civil rights/Food stamps) approval ratings was directly related to Vietnam & the people hated in the Vietnam war in the end - It was hugely unpopular then!

Yes, Vietnam was a disaster, but why is that? It's because traitors like John Kerry undermined the US presence in Vietnam.  They collaborated with the enemy, which eventually forced us to retreat and give up the fight.  And if you didn't know, Kerry LIED in testimony before the Committee on Foreign Relations.  They say "death before dishonor", but apparently for Kerry, that isn't true.  People like that are why America technically lost in Vietnam. 

PS: LBJ chose not to run for a second term...he might've won, but he decided to step aside. 
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« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2017, 02:20:40 PM »

If you're still hung up with Kerry opposing the Vietnam war in the 1970's you have absolutely no right to lecture on US foreign policy

Why's that? Am I incorrect or somehow a scumbag because I say Kerry was, and is, a traitor?
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